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One person can make a difference.
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So for me, I'm always saying to people, wake up, participate, get into action, be involved.
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I think it's so easy to be complacent, right?
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And to watch the evening news and to feel like you don't have a voice, even though you're one individual and I'm saying you have a voice, you have the power.
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Welcome to The Wayfinder Show with Luis Hernandez, where guests discuss the why and how of making changes that led them down a more authentic path or allow them to level up in some area of their life.
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Our goal is to dig deep and provide not only knowledge, but actionable advice to help you get from where you are to where you want to be.
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Come join us and find the way to your dream life.
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Welcome back to the wayfinder show.
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I'm your host louis hernandez And today's guest is colin kingsmill.
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Colin is a globetrotter where the story is diverse as his destinations from a successful career in Swiss banking and a whirlwind of high flying lifestyles to personal reinvention and overcoming adversity Colin has seen it all After a decade in international finance and navigating both glamorous and challenging experiences, he's now settled in Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia, and started the Enough Already movement to help people remember who they are and who they will be and change the world.
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Colin is on a mission to help people rediscover their humanity, live in integrity, be fearless, and become free from suffering that is holding them down.
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Colin, welcome to The Wayfinder Show.
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The Wayfinder Show.
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It's quite the introduction.
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Thank you.
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Was that?
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I can't believe that's me.
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Yeah.
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Well, you've had quite the life,
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It's been a fascinating one.
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It's been, a very interesting one.
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Um, I certainly didn't plan it this way, but, yeah, it's been great.
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well, tell
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us a little bit about your origin story.
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I know you spent your childhood kind of going back and forth between Canada and the Swiss Alps and, you know, take it from there.
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Yeah, I mean, I kind of see my life in three chapters, you know, the first chapter of my childhood, I grew up in, in Western Canada.
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And, then a little bit later, I started to go back and forth to Switzerland because my mother was Swiss.
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not for, not because I wanted to go skiing or anything like that, but it was, it was just a family thing.
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My mom was Swiss and my dad is Canadian.
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that first chapter when I did after university, when I did move, move back to Switzerland was all about, and I actually have a coach that's called it Seeking Fabulous, right?
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this idea of wanting more, wanting to have more, be more established, present myself in a certain way, it was all about the external factors of success, right?
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I had to get the checklist.
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Right.
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So the travel, the cars, the family, the house, you know, it was all very external.
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and I hit a wall one day for sure.
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And, that was probably my enough already.
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I didn't wake up to the fact that, enough already happened 20 years ago, but, I hit a wall and I started chapter two and chapter two was me moving back to British Columbia, back to Canada and, starting over in a space and place that was more tangible to me.
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and that was in the real estate development world.
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So, and now chapter three is kind of international real estate development done, and now it's being back in, the Maritimes in Atlantic Canada and, really working with people on how they can get to, get to themselves faster than I did.
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it took me a very long time to get, to get to this place.
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And, I think it's important that people can get there faster than me, because we live in very complex times and people are suffering, people are sick, and you see the number, you see the evidence of that in mental health statistics and so forth.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, those are, those are kind of my chapters.
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Yeah, I like how you broke that down.
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I didn't realize that your background was in real estate development as well.
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I think we share that.
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I also, it's one of those, areas, Industries and where, where, you know, I think most people who go through it suffer some real financial hardship at some point, right?
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We all think of real estate developers as being, you know, these big successful glamorous, but it's the failure rate is actually Incredibly high, right?
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And it's very easy to go broke in real estate development,
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right?
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Yeah, I think the failure rate is really high.
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I don't have the statistics on that but certainly it are My space was always real estate development in, in destinations.
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So it was all about placemaking around tourism and hospitality.
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So whether it was Whistler, British Columbia or San Destin in Florida or Mont Tremblant up in Quebec and other places.
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It's a very, very tough game.
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I remember in 2009, we were brought over, by a Canadian investor to do a project in Montenegro.
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And here I was, it's like, all right, how do you sell luxury condominiums in a post communist emerging market?
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That's really hard to get to.
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It's not known for luxury.
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It's not known even for international real estate development.
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so yeah, I mean, you learn, you learn a lot along the way in that field.
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Cause it's a tough space and place to work in.
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Right.
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Cause the developers and the investors are putting down very large commitments of financially.
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And then people like you or me have to go and figure out how to sell it, how to connect that product to the audience.
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And, yeah, it's, Very, very, very challenging, but also a great school of life.
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Right.
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So,
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I think, in business, there's a lot of people, there's different seasons, right?
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And we all go through the hard seasons.
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I find that in real estate, particularly in real estate development, the seasons are very long, right?
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Just because, you think about development, the time of entitlement and permits for years, and then it takes, more for fundraising.
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Then the cycles, the market cycles change and delay it more.
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I found that the people who have been in development and had failures there took longer to recover than many other areas myself included.
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both emotionally, spiritually and as well as financially.
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it's very, real estate is a get rich slow game.
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And I think it's a comeback slow game as well.
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Would you agree?
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yeah, that's an interesting way of putting it, you know, perhaps it's because something like development does take so long.
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Right.
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you're not selling a quick and easy commodity like a car, let's say, I think it makes perfect sense.
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The commitment is larger, it's greater, it's more in depth, Because you're also dealing with, something very tangible.
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You're dealing with something where people's humanity is involved, whether you like it or not.
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I mean, whether you're building, you know, affordable housing or social housing, in a particular place or whether you're building a high end destination in Bora Bora or the Maldives, you're still dealing with, and I've always taken the role very seriously.
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You're still dealing with the creation of memories and spaces and places where humanity exists, right.
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And where humanity creates stories and memories and emotions and legacies and all that.
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So.
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It feels as though certainly it's felt to me that that commitment in the tangibility of the land and the place and the placemaking has been harder.
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And it's been harder when the dream doesn't get realized.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Over the promises that were thought up, don't get promised.
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And, I think you're right, it does take longer to recover.
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also because nobody teaches that in school.
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Right?
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Nobody teaches failure.
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Nobody teaches.
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You know, what happens when you fall off your bike, you know, metaphorically, right?
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from a career perspective or from a, from a project perspective, it's not, it's not taught and it's also almost shunned upon, right?
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The idea that you can fall, dust yourself off, get up and get back on the bike.
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But from a real estate perspective, you know, those are bigger and those are big numbers.
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They're tangible and you can see it, right?
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Like it's not like a factory.
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That, you know, off in some obscure place you can see when a real estate destination or a place making project or development project has the right energy and it's flowing and it's going or when it's not quite and, you know, I've spent a long time, working with people on, figuring out The why behind the real estate development right like why, what are you really doing, why will it matter who will care.
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And those are questions that a lot of developers don't really necessarily like right, because, and I'm probably rambling on but so often.
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I think real estate development is done through the lens of the Excel spreadsheet, right?
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Or the numbers spreadsheet where, you know, what am I going to earn per square foot on this project?
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And I think we're entering an era and I think maybe we've probably already entered it where people living in the age of knowledge and living in the age of information want more.
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I think, and I don't, I don't know if you can see this in the markets that you're working in, but It requires greater, a greater commitment, a greater relationship with the audience, real language, brand promise that makes that, that, that is authentic, right?
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Do you remember, remember years ago, we could push out almost anything right into the marketplace and the market space and language was lighthearted and not particularly, deep, But nobody believes any of that anymore.
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So how do you navigate in today's landscape?
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is kind of what I've been working with clients and other developers and things like that.
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Yeah.
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It's an interesting time.
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So, after, some of your past development failures, did you decide to go back in at all, or do you call it good?
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look, I'm always open to going and doing a project that has the right energy.
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I think in the past, I probably said yes.
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I said many, many times I have said yes to the dress, right?
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Yes to a project.
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Without necessarily knowing the details, right?
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Without this, just kind of going, all right, let's try this.
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Let's see what, we'll see, see what happens.
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So I probably, should have learned to be more pragmatic in the past and dive deeper into the numbers and understand who I'm dealing with and, be more, what's the word?
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Critical, if you want, have a critical lens on what the stories are.
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we're what stories were being sold to me, right?
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Whether I was dealing with a, 35 million per condo development or, fascinating projects in the lower valley or whatever it was.
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but that's how we all learn, right?
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what I've done in the last few years is I'm less about the shiny object, right?
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And whether the developers on the UK rich list, or whether the owner of a project is, Baron Bic or some other celebrity or whatever.
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I used to dive into that and just say, yes, let's go for it.
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I'd probably be more attentive now today.
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but, yeah, you, you, you all brilliant learning experiences.
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I wouldn't, I wouldn't, and some of them, some of them are hugely successful today.
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They might have been in a lull when I had to leave or so.
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Yeah, I'm not, I'm not too worried about them.
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Okay.
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It hasn't totally burned me is what I'm trying to say.
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You are in it.
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I'm an optimist.
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At heart.
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Maybe I'm more hopeful at heart.
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but now today I only do projects where, there's a real soul to what's going on.
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And, I trust my instinct more than, the idea of, of seeking fabulous.
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So it's more the projects that I'm doing today are more inward focused.
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Less outward focused.
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And, you know, I love placemaking.
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I love destination making.
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I love all of that.
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there's incredible things happening in the real estate world as well.
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Like, I don't know if you follow Realm Global, but Realm is creating a platform.
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it's just Realm, realm, global realm, R-E-A-L-M, realm global.com.
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They're creating a platform.
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That is absolutely revolutionary around the real estate industry.
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And that allows all of the silos of the real estate brands, right.
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Whether it's Sotheby's or England Volkers or Keller Williams or whatever.
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It's basically matching properties and matching owners, on like three or 400 lifestyle tags.
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So very, very different.
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And the way real estate was conducted in the past.
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So, there's incredible things happening in that, in that industry, like, like, like what realm is doing.
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So, yeah, it's hard to check them out there.
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Yeah.
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You, you really should.
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Okay.
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so what made you now, what you're doing with enough already, the movement is, is completely different, right?
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Tell us a little bit more about that and how, how you got into it.
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It's totally
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different.
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after many, many years of sort of international travel and projects around the world, I, I kind of, I developed a natural ability to, to coach and to mentor and to work with people who might not have seen as much as I've seen, right?
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So I'm very grateful to the sort of international destination placemaking past that I've had.
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And that goes from Bora Bora to Saudi Arabia to the Maldives, right?
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And everywhere in between.
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so about six years ago, I started coaching.
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And I was doing a lot of coaching and mentoring and advising around fear and overcoming fear and in the last couple of years, I've just kind of expanded that lens through which I work and through which I see life.
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And I started to think, you know, this whole world of coaching and leadership development.
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Not just in the real estate world, but in so many sectors has felt for myself and my colleagues, like we are working in an emergency room triage, right?
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So you come in, you have your hour of coaching for 400 or whatever you're going to spend.
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And then you go and you do a workshop and that feels great for the three hours that you're in there that afternoon.
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But, the problem is when you go back into your regular life is where the suffering and the hardship And the trauma management and the burnout and the anxiety and the stress and all of these things are really impacting people.
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So we've said, we started to say enough already around leadership development.
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Right.
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We started to say, we have to do things better.
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we have to reimagine, things differently.
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so I've just started to kind of run with that.
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And I've been thinking, well, if you.
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And the four pillars of Enough Already are humanity, integrity, fearlessness, and freedom, right?
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And if you look at life through the humanity lens and believe that we are all one lineage on this little rock flying through the galaxy, you begin to think differently, right?
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You begin to treat people differently.
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if food corporations began to think differently and had humanity within them, how different would our food supply look like, you know, if healthcare had care in it as opposed to just profits.
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So you're right.
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I agree.
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it is a bit of a right angle turn on what I've done in development and real estate development in the past, but just looking at where the world is today.
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I think we can no longer be complacent.
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The world is sick.
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And I don't know if you've seen this in the work that you do, but.
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Everybody, especially our younger generations, they're sick, they're burnt out.
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We are living in an era where the epidemic is around, anxiety medication and depression medication.
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And I just keep saying, it doesn't have to be like this.
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What is going on?
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That's the reason to start it.
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And if you look at life with a, with a more humanistic approach and you begin to live in your real integrity and start to be fearless, I think you can become free from psychological suffering.
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So that's the whole idea around the movement is look at life through the lens of humanity, begin to live in integrity.
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Be fearless and through that process you can become free from the suffering That's really just tethering you down.
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That's holding you down.
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So, yeah, that's the idea with the movement
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I think we have a pandemic you could use it now I find it extraordinary because I have two teenage daughters and I am almost envious of their life and yet they are burdened with anxiety and stress and all that.
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And I think when I look at the opportunities that they have in their life, the stability that they have in their life, I just think the safety they have in their life at this age and I'm thinking like, wow, I'm very proud to have been able to help provide that for them, but yet they are.
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So, they feel the stress and anxiety and fear like nothing else.
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And, imagine, I mean, to the point, my daughter, my oldest, didn't, she graduated high school early.
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She kind of went online just to hurry up and get out of school because she didn't want, and now with college, she's been delaying it for some time.
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and now it's almost happening'cause she gets so much into anxiety about it.
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And,
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it must be incredibly difficult for a parent like you and, you know, Abigail Schreier recently published a book called, Bad Therapy.
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the whole premise of the book is we are living in an era where this generation, the generation of your daughters, they are the most medicated, okay?
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They are getting the most therapy, and yet they're still the sickest.
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They are, they're all suffering.
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So you know, It's, I think it's so easy to look back and criticize our forefathers for what they did, right, or what they've done.
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And you can have all kinds of in depth conversations around things like colonialism and things like that.
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But I wonder what, what are we doing today that is going to be abhorrent in the history books in years to come?
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And I think it's what we're doing.
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to our younger generations, they are completely sick and can't cope.
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it's just not right.
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and I think it is a global issue.
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I mean, I'm in the United States and I can speak to the U S but I do read and talk to a lot of folks from all over the world and I'm realizing, these are issues that are happening almost all over and in the countries that are prioritizing, good health.
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Good food.
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these kind of things are suffering even more so economically than by our lens, you know, and I think about, for example, Japan, Japan has, you go there, it's a very healthy lifestyle in terms of the food you can get and the quality of life and all of that safety, all those measurables, but yet their economy has been shot for, 30 years, and it doesn't seem like they really care there so much,
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I don't really know the geopolitics, about Japan, all that much, but, I don't think being attentive about your health is necessarily connected to the economic results.
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I mean, you look at some of the Nordic countries, like, Norway and Denmark and Sweden and Finland.
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They all seem to be very, very productive.
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And at the same time, they're also thinking about these things.
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So the ingredient list on a bag of Kellogg's, In Denmark is going to look very different than the ingredient list that you and I might have here in Canada or the US.
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very good point.
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Yes.
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So I
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don't think I don't think those two are correlated necessarily.
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But, I do think there is a direct correlation between the quality of the food supply.
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And the level of mental health, or the mental health parameters in any given country.
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And, I don't know if you follow somebody like Kaylee Means or Casey Means, you know, he's the whistleblower from Coca Cola.
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Kaylee Means is C A L L E Y.
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And then means M-E-A-N-S.
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And his wife Casey.
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Kaylee, was at Coca-Cola, and he has since left, obviously he, he was a whistleblower about, you know, the reports they buy and the studies they buy and the things they pay for and the incentives that they give to universities and, and, journals and things like that.
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And his, his wife Casey was working in Stanford University and, Anyway, it's a long story there, but the U.
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S.
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medical system divides the body into 41, I think it's 41 different segments, right?
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So it's ears, eyes or ears, throat.