Jan. 21, 2025

Rethink Dieting for Transformative Weight Loss with Alan and Angie Thomas

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Alan and Angie Thomas, a couple who successfully lost significant weight without restrictive diets or intense workouts. Alan lost 129 pounds in 260 days, and Angie lost 63 pounds in 190 days by shifting their mindset. They now coach others through their 'Rethink Dieting' approach, focusing on personal potential and mindset shifts. The couple discusses their long marriage, raising four children, and how Alan's life-threatening realization at 300 pounds spurred their journey. Their coaching emphasizes taking control without quick fixes like diets or drugs, and the profound impact of overcoming obesity. Transformative personal stories highlight their methods' success and broader life applications.


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We've been living in this, in this prison called obesity and, and the world is telling us is okay.

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Well, the world's lying to you.

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The world's got you locked up.

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And so in, in the, the key to that door is in your hand.

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You, in fact, it's not even locked.

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All you got to do is move, just push the door open and get out.

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And that's it.

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Welcome to The Wayfinder Show with Luis Hernandez, where guests discuss the why and how of making changes that lead them down a more authentic path or allow them to level up in some area of their life.

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Our goal is to dig deep and provide not only knowledge, but actionable advice to help you get from where you are to where you want to be.

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Come join us and find the way to your dream life.

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Welcome back to the Wayfinder show.

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I'm your host, Louie Hernandez.

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And today I'm here with Alan and Angie Thomas.

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They're a dynamic husband and wife team who transformed their lives by breaking free from traditional dieting and exercise plans.

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After years of struggling with obesity, Alan lost 129 pounds in just 260 days, and Angie lost 63 pounds in 190 days, without relying on restrictive diets.

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or intent workout routines.

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Today, they coach others to achieve lasting weight loss through their unique approach.

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Rethink dieting, which focuses on shifting mindset and unlocking personal potential.

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Their message is simple.

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True transformation starts with a decision, not a diet.

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Alan and Angie, Wayfinder show.

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Thanks for having us, Louis.

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Great to be here.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's great to have you guys here.

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What a story.

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I you know, before I even have you talk about it a little bit, I'm, I'm curious to know how long you two have been together.

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We're only 44 years and married for 38 of them.

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So we're just a little while.

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And the four, four children endured us.

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And so that we have from ages from 22, 22 to 34.

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I have to think for a minute right now.

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So that's amazing.

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Well, congratulations.

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Yeah.

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Been

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doing like a long time.

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So what's the secret to having Happy married that long?

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She well, you answer, that's right.

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Oh.

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Just you know, at the altar, I told Angie, and to my knowledge, she doesn't own a gun right now, but I told her to buy a gun because that's how she would get rid of me.

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And so you make a decision at the front, other than it's you figure it out.

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And so we've been figuring it out for almost 39 years now of marriage.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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That's beautiful.

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All right.

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So tell us a little bit about your journey with weight loss.

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That's quite a bit.

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Congratulations.

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I mean.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Well, it's you know, as I say, often I should, I should have never made it to 300 pounds anyway, so it shouldn't even be a story, but it, but it was, and so sometimes our, I think it's with Ryan Halliday, one of my favorite writers, he wrote the obstacle is the way, and that's actually what ended up happening for us.

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But, but we but when, you know, I stepped on the scale and struggle with weight, I had the bigger struggle.

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I had the struggle.

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Angie, Angie supported every, you know, diet, the 10, 000 diets I was on and, and all that.

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And she had her own weight struggles, but it was really, it was really me.

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You know, with the big struggle and I'd made it okay to be overweight, I made it okay to be obese.

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I made it okay to be morbidly obese.

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But in but on March 2nd, 2017, at the age of 55, when I stepped on the scale and I saw a three at the, at the number, at the beginning of the number on the scale, I was like, wow, I didn't know my skill went that far.

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And it was my first thought and, and it, and it was just like this moment of clarity that hit me.

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I mean, I was, I was standing there and I've been in the life insurance business for a lot of years where I sold to what's called the senior market.

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It's people over 65 and I was standing there at age 55, it was the day after our 31st wedding anniversary.

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And, and I realized that the chances of me making my 65th birthday were almost zero, having sat in thousands of homes, literally thousands of homes with, with men and women who are over 65.

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I couldn't remember meeting one man.

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You meet ladies who are obese over 65 frequently, they've got medical issues like crazy, but the men, you don't meet many.

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And like I could remember zero that I, that I've met.

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There are a few out there.

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We call them uniforms.

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And and the reason that I had never met one is because they're dead.

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They

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don't live.

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And, and I remember walking through those houses of those homes of those widows.

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And I'd say, who is this guy on the wall?

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You know, you just make conversation with people, you know, getting to know him as an insurance agent, walking in.

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Maybe I was training an agent and I'd look on the wall and I'd sit and I'd see this guy, this guy in this picture with, with this lady.

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And she, and she would say, oh, he died from type two diabetes.

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He died from a heart attack.

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He died from the stroke.

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He died from, he died from cancer.

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He died from a million, you know, the myriad of different illnesses.

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And, but I could see that he was obese.

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And, and I was going to be that picture on the wall and she'd be calling me her first husband, not because she was shopping around.

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I mean, she may be shopping now, but I don't think so, but she has it.

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But, but not because she was shopping around because I couldn't put down the fork and spoon.

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I realized that my kids who were at the time, my youngest was 50.

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And I realized that somebody else would be those four children of ours would be calling somebody else dad.

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There would be in all the things that I believe God placed me on earth to do that I hadn't completed yet wouldn't get done because of my choices.

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You know, and we, and we, we have a tendency as we're, we're Christians by faith.

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And, and we have a tendency to believe that, Oh, my time was coming.

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God, well, God knows your time.

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He just, he, but he also doesn't tell you to play in the middle of the traffic, like I 95 and rush hour, you know, and that's what I was doing with my, with my scale, with my eating.

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And And it was, and I stood there on the scale and, you know, if you see a disaster, for example, if there, there's been some horrendous disaster, natural disasters recently, you know, around the country.

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And just like any disaster, if you, you, you go and make like a tree falls on your neighbor's house or it's on fire or something like that, you go to make sure you dial 9 1 1, you make sure that, you know, maybe you could save somebody, help them.

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And the next thing every red blooded American does is they grab their cell phone and they take a picture.

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And the, and So, so I was standing there on that scale that morning of March 2nd and it was a disaster and for some reason I picked up my cell phone and took a picture of the scale and that scale picture is on our website today and that's the real scale picture.

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That was that morning.

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And, and it just, and I said I'm never going to see this again.

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There's no way I'm ever going to see it and I'd said a thousand times I was going to get the weight off.

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But something that was different that time and fast forward a few weeks, I was in a business coaching session with a coach and, and he's, he couldn't, we weren't doing zoom eight years ago, seven, eight years ago, like we are now.

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It was all, it was telephone and it was for my insurance business.

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And he was a coach across the country and from, from us.

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And he said, so what do you think is holding you back in your business?

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And I said, well, that's easy.

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It's my, it's my way.

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I said, your weight.

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That was what he was surprised by my answer.

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He said, your weight, what do you mean?

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He said, how much do you weigh?

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And I said, well, I weighed 304 pounds the other day.

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I'm about 298 today.

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But, you know, I've been, I've come down before.

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And, and and he says, well, do you know what to do?

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I said, of course, I know what to do.

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Any person with half a brain knows what to eat to lose weight.

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I mean, it's not, it's not rocket science and, and he says, well, he said, well, why don't you do it?

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And I said, well, I just can't seem to stick to it.

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He said, well, and he has some great questions or life changing questions for me and, and for Angie and for a lot of people that we've impacted since then.

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But he says, well, what would you do if you could stick to get you to stick to it?

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And, and I say, well, gosh, we just watched Biggest Loser, you know, the show on TV.

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And I said, if I was on Biggest Loser, I know that I would get the weight off.

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Is there's no way I'm going to let my, you know, my friends and family watch me fail in that instance.

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And he, and he says, well, you're unlikely to get cast for Biggest Loser.

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They probably have a bunch of people waiting in line.

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What could you, what could you do?

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And as Angie will tell you from spending 44 years with me, they're I'm a verbal processor.

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I think out loud.

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And so I began pondering his question, thinking out loud, what would I do?

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I said, well, I guess I could post my skill on Facebook and every day until it reached my ideal weight.

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And as I said it, I wanted to pull the words back in because I knew that he was going to challenge me at that point.

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And he said, and he said, do it now.

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And I said, Oh no.

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I said, I said, I couldn't do that.

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It'd be too much shame.

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And he says, no, do it now, Alan.

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You're at a tipping point in your life.

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If you do this now, it's going to change everything.

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And boy, he, he didn't know.

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You know, the, the Providence that he spoke at that point the, and, and so I, I put my scale on Facebook and I said, I'm going to reach my ideal weight by, by ironically November 20 22nd, 2017 is the day I put down true.

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And I just realized this today, you know, it was November 22nd,

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2017.

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And and I, I did some calculations, just common sense things, not, I'm not a nutritious dietitian.

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And I said, people watch me.

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And it, and it started kind of a, kind of a, a miniature little movement of people.

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And, and Angie, you know, the next thing that happened, well, you get to tell the next part of the story.

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The next part of the story is hers.

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So well when you walked in and I was standing and shook three feet from where we are right now, And so,

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All I can say is that I was beyond surprised when I looked at Facebook and there was my my husband's scales.

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And a declaration, if you will, of his commitment to, you know, release weight and 129 pounds in a certain number of days.

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And, but he didn't discuss it with me because as you know, you asked how long have we been together?

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We've been together for a while.

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And part of the reason we probably stayed together is that we usually discuss, we always have discussed big decisions.

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And in my world, posting your weight.

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On Facebook is a pretty big deal.

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And one reason is because we have children and they were some were still in the public school system and, you know, the parents and whatnot.

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Some might have been on Facebook with us friends that type thing, but ultimately it was the real reason probably was because I knew I had gained some weight.

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I knew I had never I'd lost weight after our last child, which keep in mind, as Alan said, she was 15.

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I, I would get within about 10 or 15 pounds of my pre pregnancy weight with child number 4 and something, you know, there's always a reason to eat, an event oh, let's go out with, you know, here, travel or whatnot, certainly holidays, and so I always, Let it linger that I either didn't ever get there, even though I was close several times.

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And before you know it, it's another 5 this year, another 3 this year.

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And before you know it, I'm seeing 188 on my scale.

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I did not know it though, because I had not weighed in several years.

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The very few occasions that I needed to go in to have like my yearly ladies appointment or whatever.

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With your doctor.

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With my

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doctor.

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I would tell the nurse, I'm not obese and I'm not anorexic, and I would get away with it every time.

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Now, we almost came to blows a few times with them, but I said, I'll talk to the doctor because they're very adamant they want to weigh you.

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And I got past that every time, every time.

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So, literally, when Alan has, you know, done this, a few days passed.

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And like Alan said, a mini movement started.

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And that started from some of his, a Facebook friend that we had known since college, reached out, that was still back in our home area of Columbia, South Carolina.

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And then here we are in Florida at this point, he had reached out to Alan and said, what are you doing?

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I need to lose a massive amount of weight over 100 well, over 100 pounds as well.

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And Alan said, join me, join me.

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We'll do it together.

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Well,

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then he did and then he knew I had a big network and all of a sudden some ladies are wanting to do it that we didn't know, you know, by in person ourselves, but this friend did.

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So he's like, they want to join too.

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Is that okay?

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And so Alan comes to me and says, do you want to be the 1st woman?

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Because he knows I'm pretty competitive.

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No, I asked you, I said, I know you want to be the first woman to do it.

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So, so Angie, Angie says that Angie says, you know, I don't, I don't, nobody knows what a way I said, sweetie I've been in the insurance business for a couple of decades.

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I can guess your weight within 10 pounds.

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She said, you haven't, I haven't told you my weight in probably five years.

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Doctors don't even know my weight.

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I said, I can get it within 10 pounds.

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She said, I, I mean, I could work at, insurance agents have to know.

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Wait, so they, you know, so they know how to handle clients.

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I could work at the state fair, it'd be a part-time job.

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And, and so, so she said, no way you can guess.

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And I didn't guess it within, I guess it, guess it within two, I guess her 180 6.

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She was 180.

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And, and this is the thing that we all get into Louie.

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We all get into this belief that nobody knows that nobody knows what we're doing.

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Nobody knows that our weight's gone up and that declaration that she made, you know, led to her blowing through the, through the pounds and and it, and it changed everything for both of us.

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And, and it was really interesting that that part of our journey, you know, we had, this was never intended to be.

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I mean, it wasn't, I mean, but it's, but people, when you lose a lot of weight, heavy overweight people come to you and they ask you, what are you doing?

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What are you doing?

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What are you doing?

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And what they're really asking you, and this is my core belief.

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They're not asking.

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what you're eating.

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They're not asking what, you know, what exercise you're doing.

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What they're asking is, have you found the land of eat as much as you want, whenever you want, in whatever you want to lose weight in.

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That's what we're, that's what obese people like me want to know.

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They want to know how to eat as much as they want, whenever they want, whatever they want.

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And they want to know that glorious land that doesn't exist on planet earth.

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That's called heaven.

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That's where we get to drink all the wine with Jesus too, by the way, and not get, not get hooked.

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But, but at any rate, at any rate.

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It's but it's interesting and we and I had this one lady and I was always very open with people and and you know about what we did nutritionally and it was nothing crazy.

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It was very nutritionally sound and no crazy exercise.

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It was just common sense and this lady, she she reached out to Angie and me.

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We're having a conversation with her and she was somebody I didn't personally know.

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It was a friend of a friend through business.

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She had At over a hundred pounds lose.

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She was in the, she worked in the cosmetology field.

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And and when I told her what what we ate and the exercise we did was primary around the eating, she said, Oh, I could never do that.

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It was, it, she became a microbiologist and I, and I don't believe she had any training microbiology.

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And by the way, this is what these people do.

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They find what's wrong with the food they found, but what's interesting is, and for some reason it hit me what to ask her.

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I said, Oh, wow.

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I get it.

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What did you have for lunch?

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And she said, well, I went to Taco Bell.

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I said, awesome.

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Taco Bell's tasty.

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I love Taco Bell.

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I said, what'd you have?

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She had the chimichangas and the cheese and the, and, and all the garbage food, not that Taco, don't send me emails about Taco Bell being healthy, but at any rate, but all these things.

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And so I asked, what did you drink?

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I knew she didn't, I knew she didn't have sparkling mineral water.

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So she, she had a Mountain Dew, full, full blown Mountain Dew, you know, which is obviously super healthy.

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And then my next natural question everybody knows is what'd you have for dessert?

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And she had Kit Kats.

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And I said, well, amazing.

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I love Kit Kats, the chocolatey chocolate covered cookies.

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They're awesome.

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Have a nice life.

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I hope you find what you're looking for.

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And I got off the phone with Angie and I said, I will never, as long as I live, tell another soul what to eat.

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Because they're all lying to themselves, just like I did.

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And, and so it was really interesting.

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Fast forward, a mentor, you know, we've been doing some coaching business coaching because I've been in the sales area for a long, long time.

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And, and my mentor.

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Dan Miller, who passed away, Dan had 48 days to work you love, he passed away from pancreatic cancer earlier this year, but, but Dan looked at me and he says, Alan, why a lot of people don't know this.

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He was client 001.

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He dropped 17 pounds in 45 days using our process and I would just did to help him.

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And he was asking me, he said, I need to lose a little weight.

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This is.

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And, and I, but he says, why don't you do this for work?

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He said, I said, Dan, I don't ever want to tell people what to eat.

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I don't ever want to tell people what exercise to do.

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Cause that's not their problem.

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You have to change what you eat.

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Of course you do.

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Do you have to exercise?

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Well, we've improved that that does is an absolutely necessary.

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While it is preferable.

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Cause we have clients that can't, can't, can barely walk who've dropped.

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Oh, you know, and I share some of that a little bit, but the point I make with all of this Louie is that.

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This concept that we're looking for this perfect diet and all these things.

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And so somebody came to me who I heard myself and I said, the words that we've said to every single client since then is for is a gentleman who said, man, I heard y'all story and I really liked some help.

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And I heard myself when I heard him talking about what he was experiencing.

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Man, I said, I said, I'll give you three sessions.

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I'm not really sure I want to even do this.

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And I was really.

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Sincere and and I said, but I'm never going to tell you what to eat or what exercise to do.

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And that and those three sessions changed that guy's life.

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He became a coach.

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He started, he stepped out of the shame.

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He stepped out of a prison that the door was always unlocked and he didn't realize it.

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And he dropped a bunch of weight and, and ran his first mile, all these things.

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And I say this to people to give somebody maybe who's listening that struggled, you know, some hope because, you know, like when, when Rick Sponholtz came to us three years ago, and this is a guy who should be hopeless.

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He's a guy that weighed 388 pounds.

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He's a unicorn, by the way.

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He was 70 years old.

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He heard our story somehow.

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He still to this day doesn't know how he found us, but somehow he found us.

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It wasn't through traditional advertising.

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He said, no, I didn't see an ad.

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I just found you somehow.

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And because he was giving up, he had a heart attack.

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He's vertebrae are fused.

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So he walks with a walker.

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He so exercises off the table for him, which is very rare that people can't do some sort of exercise, but he really can't.

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And and he had every obesity related condition you can imagine.

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You can imagine a body that was carrying 388 pounds at 5 foot 10 at 70 years old.

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He's got problems.

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And I spent a little while talking to him and there's something that resonated with him.

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Because when we, when we take a client on, we don't take everybody, lots of them we don't take because we've got to be positive we can help them because that's how we are.

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We want, we want him to win.

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And, and he, and I said to him something that he, he thought I was, he later told me I thought I was a lunatic, and which I've been accused of that before.

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Gee, I wonder how they get that impression.

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He said,

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he said, just kidding.

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He said, I said to him, I said, I'm a hundred percent confident I can help you reach your ideal weight if you'll do what I ask.

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But I'm never gonna tell you what to eat.

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I'm never gonna tell you the exercises.

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I said, it's not gonna be easy for you.

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I said, you're gonna have it harder than most.

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I said, but if you'll do what we say, you'll get there.

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And, and about three weeks ago, he escaped obesity.

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He's locked in under 208 pounds down from 388.

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Now it's taken him three years.

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Now that's a long time and he's going to 188 and he doesn't call me a lunatic anymore.

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He's, he's within 130 days of his ideal weight.

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Now he's positive.

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He's getting there.

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And so, so I say this to people not to brag on us because His magic that he had was within him, just like Angie's was within her, just like me, it was within me, we all have it.

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And, and when he realized the consequences of things that were going on, it was, Louis, if health were enough to get people thin, everybody be in skinny jeans and bikinis already.

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Right.

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And and I mean, I want people to be healthy and she does too.

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Of course.

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In fact, the day Rick found us somehow, he had been to the doctor and as Alan said, he saw the 388 pounds on the scale.

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He actually went home with the intention.

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Of gaming to 400 just to see if more or less if it would take him off because he

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felt

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helpless and hopeless.

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Wow.

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And he really, so he just, he, he says it's a God thing and we believe that and I would get chills thinking about his story because he is living life while he cannot exercise and cannot run.

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He was not very fast.

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He is doing things that he had not been able to do.

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Just going out to meet friends for lunch or to show up at an event.

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Even if it takes him a little longer to walk to get there, he is getting there instead of hiding in his apartment because of the shame of his size.

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I mean, and people are inspired every day by this man, and he has changed other lives that have been so blessed to watch him on this journey.

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He has a big cheerleading team that's just waiting for that just cheering him on, but he is amazing to see, but the fact that he was just going to try to end it by gaining, so we're so happy for that.

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You know, I, I gotta say a few things here.

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First of all, I come across a lot of people especially through the Wayfinder show, who offer coaching services, okay, and a lot of us, you know, we say that we're trying to, we're just doing this to try to help people, but you know, obviously you can sometimes often feel that it's really, yeah, maybe they're trying to help, but there's ulterior motives, right I can genuinely, like, feel that you are real, I mean, I just see the glowing light that comes out of you as you're talking about your friend Rick, you know, and, and I, I mean, I, I feel that you're almost like holding back tears of, of pride and joy from that.

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And that is a really genuine and beautiful thing.

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So thank you for doing that.

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Really?

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That's just, it's really amazing.

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I, going back to topic though, I, I would like to,

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I,

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I'd like to have you give away all your secrets and we're going to try and do that here if we can, but but I, I, I am curious about a few things.

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Sure.

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I want to ask, I, I think a lot of our, when we suffer from things like obesity or other, ailment, you know drugs poverty, or it might be right.

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Oftentimes it's an identity issue, right?

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And I heard you say, well, people with OB, what we is obese people have, you know, and I'm, I'm curious about what your identity is.

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What do you feel that you are obese?

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Me now, or no, I'm confused.

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Cause you said it.

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Yeah.

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You said it earlier.

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And I heard, I heard you say, I'm saying I know.

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Yeah.

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Well, I, I don't identify with being obese anymore.

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I identify with being obese in the past because I know what it's like.

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I know what, you know, and so not a secret.

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And so my, my tip for somebody to understand, because it's really difficult.

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Like when you go into the gym, You know, like your runner, let's take your runner's club.

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For example, if a guy that three, this 304 pounds, like I used to be shows up at that runner's club.

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I mean, everybody's going to look at this guy's insane.

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What's he doing here?

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They're they're not in.

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And so, or if you show up at the gym and people, people who've never walked through this battle, it's really difficult for somebody to understand it.

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And I know people.

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I want to try to, and there's a lot of good people out there that do it, but it's not a battle.

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It's, is it, does it impact your health?

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Yes.

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Will, will you, will a person cost them between five and 20 years of their life being a beast morbidly beats?

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Yes.

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That's statistics.

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That's, that's not me.

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That's, that's just numbers.

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So, but at the end of the day, it's like last night, you know, one of our clients last night, a beautiful story.

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This lady told she's, she's been with us for about about 10 weeks and, and she's, you know, she has lived with this shame of obesity for all these years.

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Down about 30 pounds.

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She can, you know, and I, she's, it's funny how she's been so coachable as we've gone through it, but she came with so many stories about white women and, and, but she told us something last night in front of the front of our of our coaching clients.

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We do a group session with people every week in addition to the private coaching, but she she said, she said, I did something I haven't done in years.

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She said, I went from the back row of our.

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fire at church to the front row.

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I'm front and center now.

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Now she's still got a lot of weight to lose.

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I want you to keep in mind, but what she, but what's happened is the shift is taking place in her mind that we work on all the time.

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We were working on the thinking.

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That's the thing.

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Again, do people have to change what they eat?

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Yes, of course you do.

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You can't keep eating, you know, massive quantities of ice cream and cheeseburgers and lose weight.

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It's not going to happen.

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But, but the point, the point I make is.

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The shift that she's made moving front and center, she's taking on this identity now, the version of herself she was created to be, okay?

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She was created to be the ideal weight version, and now, even though her weight has not caught up with the shift in her, in her thinking, her thinking's changed to the point that she's not ashamed anymore.

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I mean, she's only dropped 30 pounds of a lot or 27 pounds of a lot of weight.

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And so that's what I'm talking about.

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The identity is so important.

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And you're exactly right, Louie.

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I mean, it is because the identity of, you know, I'm an ideal weight per person and we don't tell people what they should weigh.

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Okay.

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The way we, we get clear with people on what they should weigh.

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Is, you know, if they're confused.

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In fact, this is this lady, I'll tell you her exact situation.

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She she was 202 pounds when she started with us.

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Okay.

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She was 202 and she told us she wanted to be 150, but I always test that.

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And in our, in our first call, I said, if the creator of the universe walked in to your house with the version of yourself, you were created to be, what does that version way?

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That's interesting.

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Okay.

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She's five foot two, I think five foot one.

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Right.

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You know, so what, she's over 200.

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She, so what, what would, what would be the weight that version of you would be?

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And she's, oh, that version's 1 35.

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But she said, but I'm gonna be, I, I wanna get to one 50 before I think about that, I said, no, that's not how this works.

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She's gonna be her now.

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And, and it's interesting.

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She said, really?

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I said, yeah.

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And she said, but all I'm meeting, and this is another little aside that, that's funny.

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I mean, and this is how, this is how I used to think, this is how b people, we, we.

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We think we don't realize we can't read our own label from inside our own jar.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I mean, you, you can, you can, you have to have somebody on outside reading that label and it was so.

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She said, all I eat, all I eat is ice cream.

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I mean, all I eat is not ice cream.

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All I eat is boiled eggs and lettuce.

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That's all I eat.

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And I can't lose weight.

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And I, and so I said, well, let me ask you if all the people that you loved in the world were being held hostage.

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And the only way you got them back alive was to lose or what we call release.

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Release one pound of that weight every week until you save their life.

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But you can't ask adopt.

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Doctor, dietician, nutritionist, physical fitness expert.

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You can't even google what to eat.

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You've just got to eat something that's truly healthy, that you know in your heart would be healthy, that your, your doctor would, would say.

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Man, that's the healthiest anybody eats in my whole, you know, hemisphere of patients and all.

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And, or else, those people lose, lose their life.

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What would you change about the last 30 days in order to save your, your family and friends lives?

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Oh, I'd stop eating all the ice cream and cookies.

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Now, 30 seconds before she was, she was only eating boiled eggs and lettuce.

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And I'm like, okay, cool.

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And it's something that we weren't, it wasn't a shamer and she said, Oh, I've been, that's what it takes.

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I said, yeah.

00:28:56.963 --> 00:28:59.913
I mean, it's not that you're never going to have ice cream and cookies as long as you live.

00:28:59.913 --> 00:29:01.433
I said, but you've got to make changes.

00:29:01.943 --> 00:29:06.794
And then five, five or six days later, she's dropped, you know, everybody loses that initial water weight.

00:29:06.834 --> 00:29:09.114
Then there's a couple of pounds of fat, two or three pounds of water.

00:29:09.114 --> 00:29:11.723
She's down five pounds and she's, she's blowing us up.

00:29:11.784 --> 00:29:13.144
Always get stuck at 197.

00:29:13.473 --> 00:29:15.094
Always get stuck at 197.

00:29:15.094 --> 00:29:16.703
I said, Oh, agent, I've got a few minutes for.

00:29:17.263 --> 00:29:18.443
Next coaching call.

00:29:18.483 --> 00:29:19.534
So let's let's hop on.

00:29:19.544 --> 00:29:21.713
We'll solve this in about 30 about a minute.

00:29:22.203 --> 00:29:23.784
And she says and you want to know our secrets.

00:29:23.784 --> 00:29:24.814
This is, this is what we do.

00:29:25.013 --> 00:29:29.723
So she, she said she's, she got on, she said, always get stuck at 197.

00:29:29.723 --> 00:29:30.864
It happens every time.

00:29:31.114 --> 00:29:31.963
I said, no problem.

00:29:31.963 --> 00:29:34.644
I said, how long does it take you to go back to the ice cream and cookies?

00:29:34.644 --> 00:29:36.554
Normally, how many days?

00:29:37.114 --> 00:29:39.034
She said, maybe one day.

00:29:39.183 --> 00:29:40.263
I said, okay, no problem.

00:29:40.294 --> 00:29:41.584
I said, would you give me 30?

00:29:42.864 --> 00:29:44.183
Would you just gimme 30?

00:29:44.663 --> 00:29:50.513
And I told her a story about a client who, who had a had, he was at a wall for five weeks doing everything perfect.

00:29:50.513 --> 00:29:53.634
Then in 10 days, after the five weeks, he drops eight pounds.

00:29:53.634 --> 00:30:01.663
But, and I said, and I asked her, did he lose the eight pounds, the, the, the, the eight pounds in 10 days, or did you lose it in 10 days plus five weeks?

00:30:01.663 --> 00:30:02.348
She said, oh, I get it.

00:30:03.128 --> 00:30:06.628
And then scale comes down, scale comes down, scale comes down, scales comes down.

00:30:06.638 --> 00:30:15.199
And it's, it's this belief, because what we want, Louis, is we want to go back to what we were doing because we've been trained so many years that that's where our comfort is.

00:30:15.769 --> 00:30:21.699
That's not where your comfort, your comfort's where you're headed, but you don't, but they, it's been so long since they've been there, they don't recognize it.

00:30:22.818 --> 00:30:43.419
And so, and it's just fun to watch her and the other clients, because it's not just the help, it's getting in the front row of the choir for the first time, or it's another lady that was, that we were working with, that she, she was, she was in tears telling us about how her, her situation.

00:30:43.864 --> 00:30:53.663
That she had been in and she, you know, she's down four inches off her hips and three and a half inches off her waist and she's in tears telling us how it's changing her life, other aspects of her life.

00:30:53.663 --> 00:31:01.773
They never anticipate this because we've been living in this, in this prison called obesity and the world is telling us it's okay.

00:31:02.213 --> 00:31:03.594
Well, the world's lying to you.

00:31:04.253 --> 00:31:05.713
The world's got you locked up.

00:31:06.118 --> 00:31:11.249
And so in, in the, the key to that door is in your hand, you, in fact, it's not even locked.

00:31:11.288 --> 00:31:14.308
All you got to do is move, is push the door open and get out.

00:31:14.578 --> 00:31:14.898
And that's it.

00:31:15.199 --> 00:31:21.288
One of my favorites is a young man, mid twenties, that came to Allen had taken his call.

00:31:21.298 --> 00:31:28.068
He was just interested in his business, his career, when the subject of a significant other came up.

00:31:28.078 --> 00:31:29.558
He was not married at the time.

00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.769
He said, Oh, no, I just want to focus on.

00:31:32.219 --> 00:31:34.689
You know, getting my career going.

00:31:34.838 --> 00:31:36.328
Well, it was really interesting.

00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:39.608
The weight started coming down pretty.

00:31:39.679 --> 00:31:40.999
He had a good bit to lose.

00:31:41.019 --> 00:31:46.669
Also, and it was really interesting close to the end of that.

00:31:46.739 --> 00:31:48.358
90 pound journey.

00:31:48.598 --> 00:31:52.778
We see a picture of a lady's hand with an engagement ring on it.

00:31:52.798 --> 00:31:56.058
So things quickly shifted for him.

00:31:57.314 --> 00:32:00.884
And, and those are the, those are the types things that we love.

00:32:00.913 --> 00:32:11.473
That that does give us a chill, because his life, he'd been, he had an active life, but there's nothing like a significant other to really go through life with.

00:32:11.473 --> 00:32:17.943
Now, if that's what you want, I, I realize not everyone does, but in our on, in our years of doing this.

00:32:18.669 --> 00:32:34.499
It's really come to my attention that so many of our single lady clients, I mean, we're speaking in their 50s, 60s, even older, they've never married and in our discussions, it's because of their weight.

00:32:34.909 --> 00:32:36.239
They know it, the shame.

00:32:36.239 --> 00:32:44.638
I was on the phone with the lady yesterday and she told me she was 22 years old, 100 pounds obese.

00:32:45.429 --> 00:33:01.828
And one of her dear male friends actually shared with her, they were having a very raw conversation because she asked him, why have you never, because they seem to mesh well, why have you never approached me as a date?

00:33:02.328 --> 00:33:03.449
We get along so well.

00:33:03.449 --> 00:33:06.028
And he said, it's your weight.

00:33:06.808 --> 00:33:07.009
And

00:33:07.009 --> 00:33:13.628
she's 5'10 And she's, she said, I'm not dainty, but he said.

00:33:13.923 --> 00:33:15.064
It's your weight.

00:33:15.284 --> 00:33:16.534
I love you like a sister.

00:33:17.409 --> 00:33:21.328
See what, you know, but I love you like a sister and it could have been more

00:33:21.368 --> 00:33:22.999
and it's, it's not all in.

00:33:23.038 --> 00:33:23.778
And that's sad.

00:33:23.778 --> 00:33:24.898
This is something to get to.

00:33:24.949 --> 00:33:26.919
It's not just the aesthetics of it.

00:33:26.919 --> 00:33:31.848
It's the mindset that the person has, has who's sitting in the obesity is it changes them.

00:33:32.278 --> 00:33:33.679
It changes how they behave.

00:33:33.679 --> 00:33:35.278
It changes, changes how they act.

00:33:35.298 --> 00:33:41.179
They cause, cause we see people that, that need to lose a lot of weight, but have released all that shame.

00:33:41.778 --> 00:33:43.558
And all of a sudden they, they find love.

00:33:43.588 --> 00:33:44.253
They find it.

00:33:45.324 --> 00:33:45.713
Traction.

00:33:45.723 --> 00:33:47.963
They find those things because it's not just the pounds.

00:33:47.973 --> 00:33:50.693
The pounds are, are, are the beginning of the shame.

00:33:50.834 --> 00:33:52.663
And we're just for eradicating that.

00:33:52.663 --> 00:33:59.253
And it's not about, it's not about ignoring the obvious of the, that they need to lose weight, but it's about, you got to get rid of that first.

00:34:01.763 --> 00:34:04.644
Well, so is that the first step to first call?

00:34:06.594 --> 00:34:12.614
First step is honestly, is getting really honest about where, about what your ideal weight is.

00:34:12.634 --> 00:34:13.574
Get super clear.

00:34:13.898 --> 00:34:19.909
Yeah, because that's the first thing with obese people and people with a lot of weight to lose in general.

00:34:20.608 --> 00:34:23.188
What we do is we just want to lose some weight.

00:34:24.179 --> 00:34:24.469
Okay.

00:34:24.478 --> 00:34:27.208
Some weights a pound and I, and the brain doesn't hear just a pat.

00:34:27.259 --> 00:34:30.059
They, they, you know, doesn't know how to process that.

00:34:30.298 --> 00:34:36.668
But if you get crystal clear on what your ideal weight is, then the method starts to become much more.

00:34:36.849 --> 00:35:00.559
It's like, if you decide you're going to run a marathon, Louie, you were talking about being a guy and you talk about, you decide, you know, With certain things you have to do to run that marathon, you start, you start becoming an expert on it, you start figuring out maybe you haven't ran that far before, maybe you were doing 5Ks and all of a sudden you figure out how to, how to do those things because it got clear that you got to do 26.

00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.728
2 miles, that's a lot different than running a 5K.

00:35:02.949 --> 00:35:03.199
Right.

00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:14.648
I mean, and so you do those things and people start doing that, then they start setting in for the long haul, they start, because it is, it's not quick, it's, it's not quick in our minds, it's very, it's kind of like childhood.

00:35:14.884 --> 00:35:24.373
You know, our children, when they were young, they, they thought childhood was taking freaking forever for Angie and me, because of our perspective, it was going by like that.

00:35:24.653 --> 00:35:24.884
Yeah.

00:35:24.884 --> 00:35:29.753
And so, and so, and that's the way it is for somebody who's, who's never walked through obesity.

00:35:29.784 --> 00:35:31.443
They feel like it's taking forever.

00:35:32.603 --> 00:35:36.873
Average weight gains between five and five and 10 pounds a year for people who are obese.

00:35:37.003 --> 00:35:37.494
Okay.

00:35:38.103 --> 00:35:38.804
On average.

00:35:39.054 --> 00:35:39.454
Wow.

00:35:39.554 --> 00:35:42.273
When somebody, Somebody's dropping a pound a week.

00:35:42.853 --> 00:35:45.673
A lot of people tell me, they say, it's just, that's just too long.

00:35:45.673 --> 00:35:46.293
I don't want to lose a pound.

00:35:46.344 --> 00:35:49.184
I said, that is, that's 10 times faster than you gained it.

00:35:49.733 --> 00:35:50.103
Yeah.

00:35:50.813 --> 00:35:57.094
I mean, or, you know, whatever the, in their situation, I just tabulate when the last time they were, their ideal weight is in their, in his perspective.

00:35:57.094 --> 00:35:59.344
And we, and we're one day away from momentum.

00:35:59.353 --> 00:36:03.434
So step one, step one is positively getting crystal clear on what your ideal weight is.

00:36:03.434 --> 00:36:19.494
And a great question to ask is, and this is regardless of your belief system, and I'm not here to preach to people, if the, if the creator, the creator walked into your house with the version of yourself, you're created to be at your present age, what does that version of you weigh?

00:36:20.068 --> 00:36:22.559
Okay, I believe we're all created for something.

00:36:22.929 --> 00:36:26.219
Okay, step two.

00:36:26.548 --> 00:36:27.289
You want steps?

00:36:27.289 --> 00:36:27.659
I'll give it.

00:36:27.838 --> 00:36:28.268
Yeah.

00:36:28.619 --> 00:36:29.278
Yeah, please.

00:36:29.768 --> 00:36:31.699
What would you do if you started a business?

00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:32.778
Would you know your numbers?

00:36:33.548 --> 00:36:35.478
Like I guarantee you're an expert podcaster.

00:36:35.478 --> 00:36:42.259
I guarantee, you know, listeners, you know, downloads, you know, the places you're on, you know, a lot of things you, this is not your first rodeo.

00:36:42.259 --> 00:36:43.708
It's very clear to us being on here.

00:36:43.728 --> 00:36:44.509
Very professional.

00:36:44.509 --> 00:36:45.329
You're very good at it.

00:36:45.608 --> 00:36:49.889
You can, so you know, your KPIs, your key performance indicators, right?

00:36:50.838 --> 00:36:51.099
Yeah.

00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.159
So guess what, guess what, guess what obese people have got to do.

00:36:54.168 --> 00:36:56.409
They've got to learn their key performance indicators.

00:36:56.409 --> 00:36:59.349
They've got to know, they've got to know what their body's burning.

00:36:59.869 --> 00:37:03.918
Without without exercise, they've got to know if exercise is even a possibility of what it could burn them.

00:37:04.179 --> 00:37:05.759
Then they've got to know what the intake is.

00:37:05.759 --> 00:37:07.978
They need to, they don't just need to know their calories.

00:37:07.978 --> 00:37:09.438
They need to know their macros.

00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.018
They need to, they need to know their sleep habits.

00:37:11.018 --> 00:37:16.048
They need to know what are they need to, and, and I don't, I use this term very carefully.

00:37:16.298 --> 00:37:22.099
They need to become, what I really, I like to use the word obsessed, but it's really to become an expert on.

00:37:22.934 --> 00:37:26.014
To really become an expert on themself because everybody's different.

00:37:26.373 --> 00:37:34.784
What the diet industry has done to us, Louis, is they've taken away all the personal responsibility of the weight loss from the individual and put it on the quote magic diet.

00:37:35.364 --> 00:37:41.134
And the reason we won't tell our people what our clients want to eat is because if we do that, they'll find what's wrong with that.

00:37:41.134 --> 00:37:41.994
And it might be wrong.

00:37:42.333 --> 00:37:45.733
I want them to come to their own conclusions and they learn.

00:37:45.744 --> 00:37:50.003
It's like, it's like when I, when I looked like Rick, for example, he became a, he became a vegetarian.

00:37:50.083 --> 00:37:54.554
I mean, I didn't tell him to become a vegetarian, but he, but he decided that really worked for him.

00:37:54.554 --> 00:37:55.443
He really liked that.

00:37:55.634 --> 00:38:02.273
It came with experimenting, trying different things, and so don't be afraid to get some measurables.

00:38:04.724 --> 00:38:08.083
Then, then like a timeline, and this is something people hate.

00:38:08.293 --> 00:38:10.224
They always hate this, but this is thing.

00:38:10.244 --> 00:38:11.623
Get clear on timing.

00:38:12.083 --> 00:38:13.224
How long is it going to take you?

00:38:13.224 --> 00:38:20.353
If you do everything right, and you can, and every, or super intentional on your part.

00:38:20.753 --> 00:38:25.014
Process you're following and create and I think people should create their own process.

00:38:25.034 --> 00:38:27.528
I don't think they need to Pick a specific diet.

00:38:27.818 --> 00:38:29.608
I think they need to create their own process.

00:38:29.608 --> 00:38:30.418
That's my favorite.

00:38:30.809 --> 00:38:36.889
Okay, but if, but get really, really clear on a timeline and make sure they have belief this achievable.

00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.748
I went in when I came up with my timeline, I had a friend that lost a bunch of weight.

00:38:40.748 --> 00:38:42.208
He didn't need to lose as much as me.

00:38:42.418 --> 00:38:44.668
I called him and said, how long did it take you to lose it?

00:38:44.668 --> 00:38:49.358
And he told me, and I, and he lost an average of four tenths of pound a day, which is really fast.

00:38:49.429 --> 00:38:49.688
Okay.

00:38:49.938 --> 00:38:50.309
That's really fast.

00:38:50.349 --> 00:38:54.059
I said, I weigh about 50 pounds more than he did when he started.

00:38:54.059 --> 00:38:55.559
I bet I can lose half a pound a day.

00:38:56.213 --> 00:39:06.123
So I set my, I set my calculations for half a pound a day, and then I added a week for added a week to it for just in case I was wrong, margin of error.

00:39:06.954 --> 00:39:12.603
The original date really was November 15th, and I set it to November 22nd publicly.

00:39:13.088 --> 00:39:14.518
I hit it on November 17th.

00:39:14.588 --> 00:39:33.688
I actually only missed it by two days and because, and it wasn't, and it wasn't at this later on, we found out the math equation that we were following did make sense scientifically that we accidentally fell on it, fell upon it, but it's not that complicated to do and then, then have in before all the other things.

00:39:34.309 --> 00:39:37.708
Have a real compelling reason why you're doing it.

00:39:37.818 --> 00:39:42.298
For me, it was knowing that she's going to be married to some other guy who's probably, he's probably rich.

00:39:42.309 --> 00:39:43.909
He probably looks like Cary Grant.

00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.898
He probably, you know, if she, if I die, I mean, really think about that's motivation.

00:39:47.898 --> 00:39:50.509
I'm thinking, I'm thinking, okay, so this guy's going to be sleeping in my house.

00:39:50.509 --> 00:39:51.318
He's going to be my kids.

00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:53.478
That's a, that's called getting leverage.

00:39:53.498 --> 00:39:58.838
Archimedes, who was a guy that lived a long time ago, said, if you give me a lever long enough and a place to put it, I can move the world.

00:39:58.838 --> 00:39:59.949
You got to get a big lever.

00:40:00.398 --> 00:40:00.659
Yeah.

00:40:00.699 --> 00:40:00.989
Okay.

00:40:01.278 --> 00:40:05.219
And so part of that leverage is I want to inspire other people too.

00:40:05.219 --> 00:40:13.579
So I went public, you know, we don't have our clients go public with it like this anymore because of the fact that Facebook is such a hateful place, you know, unfortunately social media is.

00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:22.818
And so we, we, we have a a custom accountability plan that we work with our clients with, but it's, but it's get, make sure it's relevant to your life and lean into that piece of it.

00:40:23.449 --> 00:40:23.858
And then.

00:40:24.503 --> 00:40:27.083
And then get get crazy with your accountability.

00:40:27.384 --> 00:40:38.304
I mean, do whatever it is from accountability standpoint and accountability is not asking your best friend to knock a cheeseburger or a milkshake out of your hands.

00:40:38.304 --> 00:40:40.614
If they see you eating it, that's not accountability.

00:40:41.273 --> 00:40:45.634
Accountability is for you to make a declaration of what you're gonna do.

00:40:45.923 --> 00:40:49.164
And ask them if they'd be willing to witness it because you're going there.

00:40:49.864 --> 00:40:51.673
It's very different, you know

00:40:52.893 --> 00:40:59.824
I think these steps are pretty much what you need to succeed in life with whatever the goal is, right?

00:40:59.864 --> 00:41:06.054
I mean i'm i'm looking looking at this and i'm thinking about my running journey And I said Same thing.

00:41:06.054 --> 00:41:10.583
I, I was actually I didn't think of myself as being overweight, but I was in the 180s.

00:41:10.594 --> 00:41:18.074
I'm only 5'6 you know, when I started running and I was pretty unhealthy and, and but I didn't consider myself overweight.

00:41:18.344 --> 00:41:20.083
I mean, I, you know, or anything like that.

00:41:20.094 --> 00:41:23.614
I, like you said, I guess I was in denial or all that good stuff.

00:41:23.634 --> 00:41:34.063
I couldn't run much, but I set a long term goal and I started learning, you know, these, the, the, I started, figuring out what were the KPIs I needed to have, right?

00:41:34.403 --> 00:41:42.793
I wanted to, at the time I ran my first marathon at like nearly five hours and I knew I needed to get below 310.

00:41:43.273 --> 00:41:47.094
And I thought, okay, I need, I, I, I was like, no problem.

00:41:47.094 --> 00:41:47.974
I'll do it the next one.

00:41:47.974 --> 00:41:51.664
And, you know, and I go and I realized, oh, this is Recipe for disaster, right?

00:41:51.673 --> 00:41:57.463
So I made it a long term goal to do it by 2020 and it, you know, and work it backwards.

00:41:57.724 --> 00:41:59.253
This was around 2014.

00:41:59.784 --> 00:42:01.364
So then you start learning.

00:42:01.364 --> 00:42:04.634
What do I need to do to chip away at it in between, right?

00:42:04.673 --> 00:42:12.458
And, and you have other marathons in between to set benchmarks with, new bet, test your progress with, the whole nine.

00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:20.358
But right, the, the KPIs become, okay, I need to do a workout a week at this pace and then this pace, right?

00:42:20.358 --> 00:42:21.199
And things like that.

00:42:21.219 --> 00:42:21.528
Right.

00:42:21.568 --> 00:42:22.188
And and

00:42:22.188 --> 00:42:24.798
it's, it's not rocket science.

00:42:24.798 --> 00:42:26.018
I mean, is it easy?

00:42:26.019 --> 00:42:27.858
No, no, it's not easy.

00:42:27.878 --> 00:42:31.949
And what's so interesting, and it is the same in when people, people are always curious.

00:42:31.998 --> 00:42:36.878
How do you, there are certain things we look for in clients before we accept somebody into our program.

00:42:37.193 --> 00:42:37.454
Yeah,

00:42:37.463 --> 00:42:40.293
because it's a place to push a button to buy rethink dieting.

00:42:40.293 --> 00:42:44.423
We'd love to help everybody in the world, but, but we want to help people that we know are ready for it.

00:42:44.434 --> 00:42:50.724
And, and one of the big things I'll tell you is somewhere in their life, they had exhibited perseverance.

00:42:51.378 --> 00:42:51.588
Yeah.

00:42:51.588 --> 00:42:53.148
And most people have that area.

00:42:53.469 --> 00:42:56.128
And I'll give you Rick going back to him as an example.

00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:57.128
Okay.

00:42:57.378 --> 00:43:00.869
45 years as a successful realtor.

00:43:02.739 --> 00:43:05.989
That's, he went through, it was either five or eight recessions.

00:43:05.989 --> 00:43:06.648
I lost count.

00:43:07.068 --> 00:43:07.088
Yeah.

00:43:09.168 --> 00:43:18.768
And all, and all we did is I kept showing him how he had used that, that kind of perseverance in his life before, and he could do the same thing here.

00:43:18.769 --> 00:43:21.489
And he started believing it.

00:43:21.528 --> 00:43:23.719
And when you believe it, you start finding a way.

00:43:23.949 --> 00:43:26.188
And when you find a way you get, you, you go backwards.

00:43:26.188 --> 00:43:27.759
Now he has congestive heart failure too.

00:43:27.759 --> 00:43:36.228
So he has, he has rapid weight gain of water, excess water weight, you know, because of congestive heart failure, which, which one of the things that, that.

00:43:36.474 --> 00:43:41.974
It's I think this jury saved his life multiple times because of the fact that he's so conscious of it.

00:43:41.974 --> 00:43:43.224
Now he's he's picking up.

00:43:43.233 --> 00:43:45.744
He knows he's eating nutrition and the scale will jump up 10.

00:43:46.134 --> 00:43:48.833
So he gets to his cardiologist before he has a big problem.

00:43:49.153 --> 00:43:54.623
And and so because I'm not a doctor, I don't tell him, you know, but he's he's become such an expert on himself.

00:43:54.929 --> 00:43:55.199
Yeah.

00:43:55.208 --> 00:43:56.829
It's just a cool thing to see.

00:43:56.858 --> 00:43:58.719
And so, and that's what you did with your running.

00:43:58.728 --> 00:44:02.778
And, and it's, and it is, it's, it's no different than a business journey.

00:44:03.009 --> 00:44:03.458
It's no different.

00:44:03.458 --> 00:44:03.659
Same

00:44:03.659 --> 00:44:04.168
with business.

00:44:04.188 --> 00:44:04.518
Yeah.

00:44:04.748 --> 00:44:12.659
But, but it's, but it's this belief that it's, it's kind of like my friend of mine, a really close friend.

00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:13.548
He was at our wedding.

00:44:13.548 --> 00:44:16.398
We knew him prior to, excuse me, we know his, his wife really well.

00:44:16.398 --> 00:44:20.168
And he, he had stopped drinking and doing drugs in 1993.

00:44:20.168 --> 00:44:21.898
He's been sober since 1993.

00:44:21.914 --> 00:44:28.264
And in 2017, when I reached my ideal weight, he, he called me, he said, brother, I am so proud of you.

00:44:28.273 --> 00:44:29.813
He said, but you've got way tougher than me.

00:44:30.353 --> 00:44:31.773
And I was kind of startled me.

00:44:31.773 --> 00:44:33.273
I was driving on a million Island.

00:44:33.284 --> 00:44:35.554
I was headed towards Jacksonville, Florida.

00:44:35.554 --> 00:44:37.184
And I said, what do you mean?

00:44:37.184 --> 00:44:37.983
You're an alcoholic.

00:44:38.489 --> 00:44:43.039
And he said, yeah, I don't have to go in a bar or take another drink as long as I live, but you've got to eat today.

00:44:44.918 --> 00:44:48.039
And I, and I just, man, it just blew me away what he said.

00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:48.759
And it's true.

00:44:48.759 --> 00:44:53.329
And so I want people to understand this is the great, one of the greatest challenges they'll ever face.

00:44:53.539 --> 00:44:53.858
Sure.

00:44:53.909 --> 00:44:57.958
But it's also when they get, there's these gifts that are, you're waiting on you.

00:44:58.329 --> 00:45:02.889
There's these gifts, these massive gifts that have nothing to do with it, with something with high calories.

00:45:03.438 --> 00:45:06.068
And, and, and high fat.

00:45:06.338 --> 00:45:08.978
I mean, I, you can have donuts if you want, whatever works for you.

00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:16.329
But, but at the end of the day, there's magical things waiting on you at the, in, in your journey when you get that kind of momentum and it just changes people.

00:45:16.568 --> 00:45:16.628
Yeah.

00:45:16.628 --> 00:45:18.128
And that's why we get so excited about it.

00:45:18.128 --> 00:45:21.969
I, you know, if you, thank you, you told me we were gonna be doing this for work.

00:45:21.969 --> 00:45:25.773
I, I'd of laughed at you and some of them I still do.

00:45:26.539 --> 00:45:36.528
I'm curious, I wanna come away, you know, you, you mentioned earlier some people think that they're hiding it, right, that they can hide it, like, they all, everybody knows, but they think they're hiding it, and it's clear you can't hide.

00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.878
This is one thing you really can't hide.

00:45:39.219 --> 00:45:41.298
We all know who's obese, right?

00:45:41.648 --> 00:45:48.989
How can we you, you, you had a great question about, you know, asking if the Creator walked in, what would your ideal way be?

00:45:49.389 --> 00:45:53.458
Is that the question or is there something else that we can try to start to trigger?

00:45:53.498 --> 00:46:03.429
Like what is a good, tactful way, right, to to start getting the people that we love to, to pay attention to this?

00:46:03.438 --> 00:46:03.878
Great question.

00:46:04.389 --> 00:46:04.949
Great question.

00:46:05.318 --> 00:46:06.248
Best question of all.

00:46:06.704 --> 00:46:07.923
They'll say a word to him about it.

00:46:08.014 --> 00:46:09.534
Never say one word to him about it.

00:46:09.583 --> 00:46:12.574
Show them, show them how, what healthy looks like.

00:46:12.583 --> 00:46:14.653
Show them what winning with your weight looks like.

00:46:14.664 --> 00:46:18.333
Don't ever say a word to an obese person about it because they'll, because it'll trigger them.

00:46:18.333 --> 00:46:22.614
But what, but this is, this is how we, Angie and I are changing the trajectory of obesity.

00:46:22.664 --> 00:46:26.063
It's going to take almost a hundred thousand people a day moving from obesity to.

00:46:27.454 --> 00:46:28.083
overweight.

00:46:28.474 --> 00:46:33.224
And the way we do it is because when, when our clients, how many people do you think, Rick, using him?

00:46:33.244 --> 00:46:39.474
How many people do you think Vicky, the lady, other lady we talked to, you know, take Dave, who's down from 420 to 280 since February.

00:46:39.554 --> 00:46:43.443
He's changing people around him by showing them.

00:46:43.684 --> 00:46:46.244
He doesn't have to tell them you're, you have changed.

00:46:46.293 --> 00:46:50.364
I will guarantee you, even though you've never struck, you've never had, you know, 180.

00:46:50.619 --> 00:47:18.699
You know, you, you need to lose a little bit of weight at five, six, but even though you haven't been abused, you've changed people, you've helped people, they, they see you behaving, they see you showing up with your dog when nobody's there, and you, you do it by living it, and so the people, and we find this a lot, a lot, Angie and I, Angie does a lot of our enrollment calls, I do some of them, but they, they come to us and say, well, I need to lose weight, but my spouse does too.

00:47:19.259 --> 00:47:24.349
And so we say, never tell them, show them, show them the change that you're willing to do.

00:47:24.369 --> 00:47:27.228
That is the greatest impact you can have on other people.

00:47:27.498 --> 00:47:31.039
That is, that's how we'll change the trajectory of obesity in this country.

00:47:31.478 --> 00:47:39.148
That is how we'll change the, there's over a billion people worldwide who are, who are obese and morbidly obese right now, growing 1000 a day.

00:47:39.518 --> 00:47:50.898
So, but, but yeah, that's how, if you want to really impact the people around you, show them by living at yourself, by living a better life, living at your ideal weight, doing the things necessary.

00:47:51.204 --> 00:47:51.963
That's great advice.

00:47:51.974 --> 00:47:52.384
Thank you.

00:47:52.673 --> 00:47:55.634
You know, I want to ask you I know we're running short on time.

00:47:55.634 --> 00:47:56.574
This has been so good.

00:47:56.664 --> 00:48:00.423
But I, I, I need to ask you about a societal question.

00:48:00.554 --> 00:48:07.603
It, when I'm really, you know, we, there's always been these, these, like, Get rich quick solutions for weight loss, right?

00:48:08.173 --> 00:48:11.373
And the new one of the day now, I think is a zempic, right?

00:48:11.434 --> 00:48:21.344
Take a pill you lose weight Okay, and I i've heard all the arguments for it and I totally respect it I actually know I have somebody very dear to me who's been using it's helped him tremendously, right?

00:48:21.664 --> 00:48:25.043
I I just would love to know Your thoughts around it.

00:48:25.324 --> 00:48:26.304
In any of these

00:48:28.134 --> 00:48:28.603
Here's the thing.

00:48:28.603 --> 00:48:34.159
I know people do things For different reasons, and we certainly don't shame people for having weight loss surgeries.

00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.159
We have lots of clients who their surgeries have failed.

00:48:36.389 --> 00:48:41.108
We have people who've been on these drugs, and when they get off of them, it becomes a problem.

00:48:41.148 --> 00:48:53.639
Ask yourself first, if you've ever had a day, just one day first, that you were successful in eating within what you know would have resulted in weight loss.

00:48:54.108 --> 00:48:58.809
Ask yourself, so if the answer is yes, then it's possible to do it without drugs or surgery.

00:48:59.128 --> 00:48:59.539
Okay?

00:49:00.188 --> 00:49:01.708
It's possible to do it without drugs or surgery.

00:49:01.708 --> 00:49:02.489
It's not going to be easy.

00:49:02.498 --> 00:49:10.748
Then ask yourself, if you get on one of the weight loss drugs, if you're lucky enough not to have a major medical condition to result from it, which a lot of people do, if

00:49:11.028 --> 00:49:11.418
you,

00:49:11.458 --> 00:49:18.099
and if you do lose the weight, what's the plan when you get off the drug, because I've never met anybody wanting to be on a drug for the rest of your life.

00:49:18.168 --> 00:49:18.829
Great question.

00:49:19.318 --> 00:49:20.798
What's the quote, how are you going to do that?

00:49:20.798 --> 00:49:28.568
Because you're the majority of people are losing vast majority of muscle weight rather than because, because there it's, it's a drug.

00:49:30.739 --> 00:49:31.688
I'm going to use weight loss.

00:49:31.989 --> 00:49:32.518
Okay.

00:49:32.768 --> 00:49:34.349
And again, we don't shame people for doing it.

00:49:34.349 --> 00:49:38.548
If your doctor says do it, you know, Hey, that's, that's their, their, between them and their, their physician.

00:49:38.548 --> 00:49:42.309
But at the end of the day, the it's, it is not complicated.

00:49:42.708 --> 00:49:46.179
If you, if you, and I hate to say this almost, but it's true.

00:49:46.489 --> 00:49:48.708
If you eat less than you burn, you'll lose weight.

00:49:49.148 --> 00:49:55.228
My 14 year old told me this in 2015 when I was on my hundredth diet, probably.

00:49:55.809 --> 00:49:56.949
And I was obsessing over it.

00:49:56.949 --> 00:49:59.509
And he looks at me and he says, dad, this isn't really, it was 14.

00:49:59.789 --> 00:50:02.179
He said, dad, this is, this is not very complicated.

00:50:02.309 --> 00:50:06.349
He said, if you eat less than you burn, you will lose weight.

00:50:06.809 --> 00:50:07.048
Yeah.

00:50:07.068 --> 00:50:08.168
And I said, oh, it can't be that easy.

00:50:08.409 --> 00:50:09.018
He was right.

00:50:09.018 --> 00:50:15.358
And, and so do the work because ozempic is stealing the joy of overcoming the challenge from you.

00:50:15.789 --> 00:50:16.148
Yeah.

00:50:17.369 --> 00:50:17.809
It is

00:50:17.809 --> 00:50:18.849
a joy to overcome.

00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:20.639
Yeah.

00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:21.079
Amazing.

00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:21.338
Yeah.

00:50:21.340 --> 00:50:24.088
You, you dropped, you dropped weight and ran the marathon.

00:50:24.088 --> 00:50:26.878
I mean, what an endorphin hit that you can't buy at a drugstore.

00:50:27.168 --> 00:50:29.039
I mean, it's such a confidence booster.

00:50:29.108 --> 00:50:30.349
It's incredible.

00:50:30.429 --> 00:50:30.748
Yeah.

00:50:31.059 --> 00:50:31.559
Let me ask you.

00:50:32.454 --> 00:50:47.568
One last one before we, we go over to our Wayfinder 4, are there any good tools, you know, about there for, you know, like, measuring the macros or, or, you know, any of the, any other good, you know tools?

00:50:47.568 --> 00:50:48.344
The easy one out

00:50:48.483 --> 00:50:53.934
there that we tell people, and we, and we certainly don't have any, I wish I had stock in it, but MyFootistFiles, these are 20 years.

00:50:53.974 --> 00:51:15.159
I mean, they have a free version of it, MyFootistFiles, I mean, there's, there's lots of them out there, but it's, but at the end of the day, I tell, I tell people, one of the jokes I'll make is, Even if you have to write it on a napkin with a crayon, you know, get make peace with doing the work because there's going to be work to get there and somebody who struggled for a lot of years, you're going to have a lot of work.

00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.318
And I'm not talking about the, you know, doing an extra push up, although that's fine, too.

00:51:19.318 --> 00:51:23.338
I'm talking about the mental work of because without certainty.

00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:25.648
You will not stay the course.

00:51:26.358 --> 00:51:26.768
Sure.

00:51:27.528 --> 00:51:28.329
Does that make sense?

00:51:28.438 --> 00:51:29.278
It does.

00:51:29.309 --> 00:51:30.889
I mean, let me rephrase.

00:51:30.898 --> 00:51:38.509
So, so is there a good rule of thumb, if, if nobody knows anything, you know, you said the rule is just take in less than what you burn every day.

00:51:38.768 --> 00:51:39.079
Right.

00:51:39.088 --> 00:51:44.739
So, so what is, is there a good rule of thumb for that, that we can easily like ingrain our heads?

00:51:44.739 --> 00:51:48.518
What is less, you know, without that, that's healthy and safe, right?

00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:53.574
I would, I would go back to what the question that I asked that lady.

00:51:53.864 --> 00:51:55.623
Okay, I want you to think about this for a minute.

00:51:55.653 --> 00:52:00.173
And I literally, I had a client, I remember Sean who's a beautiful soul.

00:52:00.244 --> 00:52:03.784
He was in a wheelchair, this was about four years ago, when we were first starting out.

00:52:03.793 --> 00:52:19.929
He was, he was in, in a wheelchair, and he was, and he was because of his obesity, he'd approached almost 500 pounds, he was in his 490s, and because of his obesity, he, if he walked more than 10 feet, he had to he had to access a wheelchair.

00:52:20.338 --> 00:52:22.418
He had never been on a diet in his life.

00:52:22.438 --> 00:52:27.079
Now that he's the first and only I've ever run into that was obese, that had never been on a diet in his life.

00:52:28.539 --> 00:52:29.728
And I asked him that question.

00:52:29.728 --> 00:52:31.909
He has two daughters, two grown daughters and a wife.

00:52:31.909 --> 00:52:37.759
And I said, and I said to him, if your wife and your two daughters life was on the line, And same question I asked the lady I told you about earlier.

00:52:38.143 --> 00:52:46.693
It was the first time I asked anybody as a client and it's so funny his answer, but, but it's, I asked him, I said, I said, and the only, he said, but what am I going to eat out?

00:52:46.693 --> 00:52:47.643
And I don't know what to eat.

00:52:47.643 --> 00:52:48.483
I really don't.

00:52:48.483 --> 00:52:51.844
And I'd already told him, I'm not telling you what to eat, because if I tell you, it'll be wrong.

00:52:52.164 --> 00:52:52.574
Okay.

00:52:52.623 --> 00:52:54.514
So, and he said, what am I going to do?

00:52:54.514 --> 00:52:59.864
And I said, if your wife and two daughters life were on the line, it depends on you releasing one pound a week.

00:53:00.628 --> 00:53:06.219
And, and, but he could lose, he lost more than that, but, but you, but just one pound, I said, what would you do to save their life?

00:53:06.219 --> 00:53:07.878
And he paused for about 30 seconds.

00:53:07.878 --> 00:53:09.418
I swear, Louie, I thought he hung up on me.

00:53:09.418 --> 00:53:10.858
We were on the telephone call, not a zoom call.

00:53:11.168 --> 00:53:16.798
And, and I, I thought he'd hung up on me and he says, I know what I'll do.

00:53:17.469 --> 00:53:22.818
And it was just this childlike enthusiasm to his voice when he said it.

00:53:23.389 --> 00:53:24.679
I'm going to eat less.

00:53:24.969 --> 00:53:25.858
I swear that's what he said.

00:53:25.969 --> 00:53:26.728
I'm going to eat less.

00:53:26.759 --> 00:53:28.759
I said, that is where you begin.

00:53:28.778 --> 00:53:32.418
And for people who are looking for the magic pill, this is it.

00:53:32.458 --> 00:53:34.009
Begin where you are.

00:53:34.528 --> 00:53:39.239
The only knowledge Sean had was to start by eating less.

00:53:39.318 --> 00:53:40.079
That's all he said.

00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:40.838
That's all he did.

00:53:41.153 --> 00:53:42.353
That, that was the beginning.

00:53:42.353 --> 00:53:44.623
What I told him, I said, Sean, this is where you start.

00:53:44.623 --> 00:53:45.523
It's not where you finish.

00:53:45.753 --> 00:53:50.014
And he began to learn things and he began it and it resulted in him dropping almost 200 pounds with us.

00:53:50.273 --> 00:53:53.994
And so you begin where you are and you take action where you are.

00:53:54.253 --> 00:53:57.643
And so don't look for the magic pill because you'll make it too complicated.

00:53:57.653 --> 00:53:59.224
Do the thing you already know works.

00:53:59.628 --> 00:54:00.139
Yeah.

00:54:01.103 --> 00:54:01.304
Okay.

00:54:01.304 --> 00:54:02.079
Very good.

00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:02.438
If I may

00:54:02.438 --> 00:54:08.009
add, we, there are times when you don't have to eat just because you're in a situation.

00:54:08.009 --> 00:54:10.989
If you're not hungry, don't eat, start there.

00:54:10.989 --> 00:54:13.208
You don't have to eat to please someone else.

00:54:13.509 --> 00:54:13.599
Yeah.

00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:18.489
We're often in situations where we feel like, oh, we just need to eat because we're in public or whatever.

00:54:18.909 --> 00:54:21.489
No, you can make the decision and just say, I'm not hungry.

00:54:21.489 --> 00:54:22.088
Thank you.

00:54:22.489 --> 00:54:27.219
There's so many easy little things like that to start with.

00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:34.289
Start with drinking a glass of water if you think you may be hungry, but you just had, you know, a nice meal.

00:54:34.498 --> 00:54:34.838
Yeah.

00:54:34.958 --> 00:54:35.909
30 minutes ago.

00:54:36.389 --> 00:54:37.429
Have a glass of water.

00:54:37.429 --> 00:54:41.548
There's so many just common sense things that people can do.

00:54:41.989 --> 00:54:43.219
And Louie, can I ask?

00:54:43.889 --> 00:54:45.568
Yeah, if I can ask you a simple question.

00:54:45.579 --> 00:54:49.079
Was, was it convenient to run a marathon?

00:54:50.514 --> 00:54:51.264
Convenient?

00:54:51.443 --> 00:54:52.224
No, I don't know.

00:54:52.454 --> 00:54:53.043
Absolutely not.

00:54:54.364 --> 00:54:55.204
I don't think there's anything.

00:54:57.213 --> 00:54:59.813
Because it's a, it's a parallel to weight loss.

00:55:00.204 --> 00:55:03.373
And it's like, we've had clients run marathons afterwards.

00:55:03.449 --> 00:55:09.668
But it's like Pastor Scott, he went from 260 at your height, at about your height, to 190.

00:55:09.869 --> 00:55:10.338
Oh wow.

00:55:10.338 --> 00:55:10.679
Excuse me.

00:55:11.139 --> 00:55:12.639
I'll tell you what, some of the best

00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:18.778
runners I know are people who have been very obese and have lost the weight.

00:55:19.099 --> 00:55:34.938
And then they're running, I'm pretty fast for my, You know, my age and everything and they come and they join me and I learned that they dropped all this weight and it's because they just feel, I don't know what it is, but they, they're just incredible runners and, you know, and they show me the pictures of a couple of years before.

00:55:35.759 --> 00:55:36.088
Yeah.

00:55:37.503 --> 00:55:42.594
And it's the thinking that it takes the same kind of thinking to overcome obesity that does to run a marathon.

00:55:42.893 --> 00:55:43.514
Oh, totally.

00:55:43.574 --> 00:55:43.923
Totally.

00:55:43.923 --> 00:55:44.224
Yeah.

00:55:44.463 --> 00:55:47.614
No, I, they're, they're usually some of the most inspiring people I run with.

00:55:47.733 --> 00:55:57.123
I mean the running world has a lot of great inspiring people, but like the weight loss folks are always, there's something about that mindset that is just so tough that I love being around them.

00:55:57.123 --> 00:55:57.994
I love being with them.

00:55:57.994 --> 00:56:03.853
So anyhow so I would like to switch over to our wayfinder for, if we could.

00:56:04.449 --> 00:56:04.798
All right.

00:56:05.338 --> 00:56:11.289
So one of them, it's kind of funny that this is the first one, but give us a hack.

00:56:11.768 --> 00:56:15.869
This is just a cheat code for life kind of thing that you guys use.

00:56:18.489 --> 00:56:27.278
Honestly, it's, it's make the decision and write, write out what the day you reach your idea, what it's going to look like.

00:56:29.123 --> 00:56:36.574
What right out for us right out because because we find that obese and morbidly obese people don't want to think about that is too scary

00:56:36.914 --> 00:56:37.103
and should

00:56:37.393 --> 00:56:41.713
think about the day that you're going to get a very clear vision of what that day is going to look like.

00:56:42.123 --> 00:56:51.204
What is going to, when you step on the scale and you, you know, if you're 500 pounds and you're going to one 80, what is going to be like stepping on the scale and you, and you see that scale flash one 80, oops, it's flashed one 79.

00:56:51.204 --> 00:56:52.074
8.

00:56:52.103 --> 00:56:54.864
Oh my gosh, you're under, and here you did that journey's over.

00:56:54.864 --> 00:56:56.054
What's it going to mean in your life?

00:56:56.063 --> 00:56:56.764
What's it going to mean?

00:56:56.784 --> 00:56:59.153
How is it going to feel carrying 300 less pounds?

00:56:59.153 --> 00:57:03.554
How's it going to, or a hundred or 50, whatever the number, what's it going to be like going to the clothing store?

00:57:03.554 --> 00:57:04.844
What's your spouse going to say?

00:57:05.048 --> 00:57:06.438
What's, what are your kids going to say?

00:57:06.438 --> 00:57:08.759
What's, what's everybody going to be talking about at the office?

00:57:08.759 --> 00:57:10.929
What, I mean, visualize that piece.

00:57:10.929 --> 00:57:11.739
That's a big piece of it.

00:57:11.789 --> 00:57:12.179
That's a great

00:57:12.179 --> 00:57:14.199
visualization is so, so good.

00:57:14.603 --> 00:57:16.494
Yeah,

00:57:16.494 --> 00:57:16.514
it

00:57:16.514 --> 00:57:16.594
does.

00:57:16.684 --> 00:57:18.793
And I suggest keeping that close to you.

00:57:18.793 --> 00:57:21.664
Most people have their cell phone close by always.

00:57:21.704 --> 00:57:22.023
Yeah.

00:57:22.943 --> 00:57:28.043
Text it to yourself as a note that you can easily refer back to it.

00:57:28.083 --> 00:57:33.103
I like to also store things that I text myself and the app Evernote.

00:57:33.914 --> 00:57:34.423
Hmm.

00:57:35.503 --> 00:57:35.914
Evernote is

00:57:35.914 --> 00:57:48.693
being it and if you're in a long line, waiting to pick up a child from school, or you're in a grocery store in line, you can easily access that and and spend instead of time looking through a.

00:57:48.833 --> 00:57:49.733
You

00:57:49.733 --> 00:57:49.753
know,

00:57:49.873 --> 00:57:50.994
senseless magazine.

00:57:51.423 --> 00:57:52.503
Look at your dream.

00:57:52.844 --> 00:57:55.923
Look at what's really important to you and what affects your family.

00:57:56.003 --> 00:57:56.543
Great.

00:57:56.974 --> 00:57:57.353
Okay.

00:57:57.733 --> 00:58:02.344
So for these, by the way, it doesn't have to be related to weight loss or anything.

00:58:02.353 --> 00:58:02.653
Okay.

00:58:02.653 --> 00:58:06.333
Just, just so the next one, a favorite.

00:58:07.434 --> 00:58:12.364
Yeah, a favorite, like a, you know, it could be a book, show, activity, whatever.

00:58:13.273 --> 00:58:14.523
Still go to think and grow rich.

00:58:14.523 --> 00:58:17.554
That's still the one that's popping up over and over.

00:58:17.554 --> 00:58:20.393
You talked about earlier is this, these are success principles.

00:58:20.393 --> 00:58:20.653
Yeah.

00:58:20.664 --> 00:58:33.443
If you look at this there, what we do, I mean, we didn't plan it this way, but boy, it came very close to, to the same principles because he's Napoleon Hill, Napoleon Hill's not just talking about money.

00:58:33.983 --> 00:58:34.483
No, no.

00:58:34.494 --> 00:58:36.083
Have you read Outwitting the Devil?

00:58:36.884 --> 00:58:37.094
Yeah.

00:58:37.094 --> 00:58:37.483
Oh, yeah.

00:58:37.483 --> 00:58:40.373
And what's interesting in the 1930s.

00:58:40.393 --> 00:58:50.123
Do you remember what the top three were of what what the devil used to get to get you into drift now in the 1930s, obesity was not an issue.

00:58:50.284 --> 00:58:59.023
I mean, it was probably five, maybe 5 percent of the population instead of 45 percent like there is now, but it was, but one of the things was lack of self control around food.

00:58:59.813 --> 00:59:00.793
One of the top things.

00:59:00.793 --> 00:59:02.813
It was a lack of self control around that.

00:59:03.063 --> 00:59:08.634
He, he, smoke, smoking was not a, was looked at as healthy and he was saying smoking.

00:59:09.023 --> 00:59:11.608
And I mean, it was very interesting that outwitting that.

00:59:11.608 --> 00:59:12.130
Yeah.

00:59:12.130 --> 00:59:12.653
Yeah.

00:59:12.653 --> 00:59:14.914
And it's no wonder it didn't get published until 2011.

00:59:15.164 --> 00:59:16.543
Yeah, that's right.

00:59:17.384 --> 00:59:17.554
Great.

00:59:17.583 --> 00:59:18.673
Andrew, did you have a favorite?

00:59:19.409 --> 00:59:20.239
I'm going rogue.

00:59:20.489 --> 00:59:32.902
I am a Yellowstone fan, and he is a constant Yellowstone fan, and my wish would be to come back as Beth in my next life, but he has to be real, so nobody think it's because of real, but I love her attitude.

00:59:32.902 --> 00:59:33.543
I gotta

00:59:33.543 --> 00:59:33.864
watch.

00:59:33.864 --> 00:59:34.507
Everybody can.

00:59:34.507 --> 00:59:36.248
My wife's addicted to that show.

00:59:36.248 --> 00:59:37.298
I haven't seen it,

00:59:37.309 --> 00:59:37.568
but

00:59:37.688 --> 00:59:38.409
I'll check it out.

00:59:38.579 --> 00:59:38.679
Oh,

00:59:39.009 --> 00:59:39.179
wow.

00:59:39.568 --> 00:59:42.108
How about a piece of advice for your younger self?

00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:50.478
I wish I had lost those 10 or 15 pounds back in 2000.

00:59:52.003 --> 00:59:57.634
1 after losing after, excuse me, giving birth to our 4th child, instead of playing around for all these years.

00:59:58.259 --> 01:00:06.039
I don't know all the great things I could have enjoyed and the confidence I would have had at the beach and all these other places.

01:00:06.429 --> 01:00:24.719
Even though it was the last say five years that I was up in the higher numbers for me and I'm 5'7 but There was nothing like being the version that I knew I was supposed to be in, and I always went back to that after the other three, but I guess I, I use the excuse of busyness and homeschooling.

01:00:24.739 --> 01:00:30.239
We homeschooled our children and, and and, you know, there was always an excuse, always an event.

01:00:30.498 --> 01:00:31.809
And that's my regret.

01:00:32.318 --> 01:00:36.248
What with my, How would my life have been different?

01:00:36.309 --> 01:00:38.568
Not that my family would be different.

01:00:38.579 --> 01:00:48.518
That's not a, that I would not change at all, but just my confidence and my ability to put myself out in certain situations in a more authentic way.

01:00:48.994 --> 01:00:58.534
And maybe to be a better mom or wife, I mean, because there's, when you're, when you're dealing with way struggles, you know, you, you do hard, even though I wasn't massively obese.

01:00:58.534 --> 01:01:03.853
I, I still, I felt invisible at the post office, for instance, because the door would be shut on me.

01:01:03.853 --> 01:01:14.514
Even if the person was just a foot or 2 ahead, a step or 2 ahead and then as soon as I got on this weight loss journey, it was so wild people, men, women.

01:01:14.989 --> 01:01:19.929
It didn't matter if they were 10 feet ahead of me or, or I was just getting out of the car.

01:01:19.929 --> 01:01:21.849
I would feel like they're waiting for me.

01:01:21.898 --> 01:01:22.349
Oh, nice.

01:01:22.668 --> 01:01:24.579
It changed so much.

01:01:25.168 --> 01:01:25.878
So don't wait.

01:01:26.329 --> 01:01:26.818
Don't wait.

01:01:26.818 --> 01:01:28.199
If you have the desire.

01:01:28.588 --> 01:01:29.108
I love that.

01:01:31.188 --> 01:01:32.188
Same question for me.

01:01:32.429 --> 01:01:32.768
Yeah.

01:01:33.108 --> 01:01:35.208
Not not to be late for the 8 a.

01:01:35.208 --> 01:01:35.438
m.

01:01:35.478 --> 01:01:36.739
class in 1980.

01:01:38.938 --> 01:01:39.539
Okay.

01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:41.449
That's quite the tease.

01:01:41.518 --> 01:01:42.009
That's where I'm at.

01:01:42.829 --> 01:01:43.608
8 a.

01:01:43.608 --> 01:01:43.728
m.

01:01:43.728 --> 01:01:46.349
English class in freshman year of college.

01:01:46.478 --> 01:01:47.208
Oh, that's where you met?

01:01:47.208 --> 01:01:47.449
That's where I

01:01:47.449 --> 01:01:48.039
met Angie.

01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:49.079
Okay.

01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:50.369
Yeah.

01:01:50.369 --> 01:01:51.018
Were you late?

01:01:51.018 --> 01:01:51.688
I sat in front of her.

01:01:53.228 --> 01:01:57.489
No, but I wanted to make sure I would go back and tell that self not to be late for that class.

01:01:57.518 --> 01:01:58.418
Oh, make sure you're not.

01:01:58.469 --> 01:01:58.759
Yeah.

01:01:58.759 --> 01:01:59.128
Okay.

01:01:59.159 --> 01:01:59.639
Very good.

01:01:59.938 --> 01:02:00.309
Positively.

01:02:00.518 --> 01:02:02.099
Make sure you show up for that class.

01:02:03.248 --> 01:02:03.619
Yeah.

01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:04.289
Get the same.

01:02:04.588 --> 01:02:04.889
That's right.

01:02:04.898 --> 01:02:05.349
Huh.

01:02:06.108 --> 01:02:07.268
Oh, that's beautiful guys.

01:02:08.518 --> 01:02:08.889
I love it.

01:02:09.208 --> 01:02:09.539
All right.

01:02:09.539 --> 01:02:10.309
Last one.

01:02:10.509 --> 01:02:16.268
You can choose one or the other, either a limiting belief or a big opportunity.

01:02:18.789 --> 01:02:19.849
Big opportunity here.

01:02:19.949 --> 01:02:22.528
Angie was talking about talking about vision earlier.

01:02:22.728 --> 01:02:23.989
And I'll read you something that I wrote.

01:02:24.009 --> 01:02:26.938
This is a vision, but I'll share something that I, that I don't share with people.

01:02:26.938 --> 01:02:29.289
I've never shared this publicly in a public forum.

01:02:30.449 --> 01:02:33.409
Sometimes, and this is for people and they can kind of fill in the blank for themselves.

01:02:34.208 --> 01:02:35.668
Talking about getting, getting clear vision.

01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.619
Sometimes I forget who I am and why I'm here.

01:02:37.619 --> 01:02:42.108
So I decided to write about my future instead of focusing on the past or the challenges of the day.

01:02:42.483 --> 01:02:45.833
Here's what I wrote this morning.

01:02:45.864 --> 01:02:48.264
I woke up to a message from our chief operating officer.

01:02:48.264 --> 01:02:48.943
Rethink dining.

01:02:48.943 --> 01:02:50.994
It happened this morning at 1 11 a.

01:02:50.994 --> 01:02:51.134
m.

01:02:51.134 --> 01:02:51.724
Eastern time.

01:02:52.873 --> 01:02:55.083
I knew what he meant over the previous 24 hours.

01:02:55.164 --> 01:03:01.923
100, 000 men and women went Obesity category to the overweight category using the Rethink dieting program and process.

01:03:01.963 --> 01:03:03.974
The trajectory of obesity has been changed.

01:03:04.233 --> 01:03:12.224
Now we can focus on the on, now we can focus on the complete and incomplete, the bigger task, helping a million men and women per day achieve their ideal weight.

01:03:12.264 --> 01:03:14.903
This is a practice that I, that I commit daily to.

01:03:15.253 --> 01:03:18.514
And my name is, and I, and I repeat this too, this other piece of it.

01:03:18.523 --> 01:03:21.753
My name is Alan Thomas and my Angie and I are challenging, are changing the trajectory.

01:03:22.768 --> 01:03:27.469
True of obesity by helping men and women lose the weight that holds them back from living the extraordinary lives they were born to live.

01:03:28.018 --> 01:03:28.559
That's what we do.

01:03:28.958 --> 01:03:30.398
That's, that's the thing.

01:03:31.099 --> 01:03:31.969
That's beautiful, man.

01:03:32.418 --> 01:03:33.559
Thank you for sharing that with us.

01:03:34.068 --> 01:03:36.849
And every time I say it, it gets hair on the end of it.

01:03:36.849 --> 01:03:37.789
It's like a buzz.

01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:39.458
Yeah, I'm getting it.

01:03:39.838 --> 01:03:41.228
Is that a vivid vision?

01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:43.679
That's your vivid vision?

01:03:44.278 --> 01:03:44.588
Yeah.

01:03:44.588 --> 01:03:44.844
I

01:03:44.844 --> 01:03:45.188
love it.

01:03:45.918 --> 01:03:46.409
Angie?

01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:48.648
It's hard to follow that one.

01:03:48.708 --> 01:03:49.829
Or the one before.

01:03:49.838 --> 01:03:50.358
Well, it sounds

01:03:50.358 --> 01:03:51.829
like you're on this together as well.

01:03:52.289 --> 01:03:54.273
Oh, absolutely.

01:03:56.994 --> 01:04:14.114
Absolutely, and I'm grateful for that 1980, but I guess the limiting belief would be weeks that we can do it tomorrow or I failed so many times before.

01:04:14.153 --> 01:04:15.253
Why bother?

01:04:15.443 --> 01:04:23.153
Because if you don't try again, if you've tried 1, 200 times, like, we had, like, Alan, especially.

01:04:23.858 --> 01:04:37.778
You know, if he hadn't have tried this one last time, we wouldn't be sitting here talking to you, Louie, and how, and, and having spoke to all of these people, whether they become clients or not, I, my buddies tell me all the time, Oh, I never thought of them.

01:04:37.798 --> 01:04:40.938
Like, when I ask questions, Oh, I never thought of that.

01:04:41.329 --> 01:04:45.568
They, they don't even understand some ways that their weight is affecting their life.

01:04:46.139 --> 01:04:54.483
And by just questions, They are more in tune to what they're missing or what their life could be or how they can change.

01:04:54.523 --> 01:04:58.704
And so don't wait because tomorrow you're still going to be a day older.

01:04:59.244 --> 01:05:11.494
But, you know, but let's try to go into it being a better version than we are today, whether it's weight loss or some other, you know, I'll call addiction or gambling or whatever it may be.

01:05:12.094 --> 01:05:12.364
People

01:05:12.364 --> 01:05:16.414
struggle with and in our case, it's, you know, the way, but.

01:05:17.583 --> 01:05:21.414
You're still going to be getting another day older.

01:05:22.563 --> 01:05:28.134
Don't don't lose, don't lose the chance to change.

01:05:28.844 --> 01:05:29.804
Such good advice.

01:05:30.043 --> 01:05:30.454
Thank you.

01:05:31.603 --> 01:05:37.153
So if people want to know more about you or they want to joined rethink rethink diet, was it?

01:05:37.474 --> 01:05:37.494
Yeah.

01:05:37.494 --> 01:05:38.298
Rethink

01:05:39.153 --> 01:05:39.583
dieting.

01:05:39.713 --> 01:05:40.094
How can they.

01:05:42.329 --> 01:05:44.768
We're not too busy for any of your clients.

01:05:44.768 --> 01:05:48.068
They can book a completely free break to call with us.

01:05:48.418 --> 01:05:50.539
And then go to transformmyfuture.

01:05:51.248 --> 01:05:54.028
com forward slash apply.

01:05:54.329 --> 01:05:55.539
transformmyfuture.

01:05:55.568 --> 01:05:56.789
com forward slash apply.

01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.358
You'll get Angie or myself or one of the, one of the folks that works with us.

01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.188
And what we do on that call is we get it.

01:06:03.309 --> 01:06:09.789
And this is for people who are interested in our help, but they, they get, we get crystal clear on the problem with obesity.

01:06:10.313 --> 01:06:17.603
And we get, and we also get really clear on their, on their commitment to solving the problem, you know, not everybody gets to solve it, believe it or not.

01:06:18.704 --> 01:06:22.434
And then we decide, and then we decide if we can, if we can help them.

01:06:22.634 --> 01:06:24.884
And, and so I really invite people to do that.

01:06:25.213 --> 01:06:29.623
And then we can, you know, once they do that, we give them access to a lot of information too.

01:06:29.623 --> 01:06:32.434
So they'll be able to find out more about us, but they go to transformyfuture.

01:06:32.474 --> 01:06:33.623
com and see a lot of things.

01:06:33.634 --> 01:06:37.474
Definitely book a call with us because here, here's the thing.

01:06:38.034 --> 01:06:38.903
We've had this happen.

01:06:38.903 --> 01:06:43.393
One of one of the associates that works with us, Jason, he called us about three years ago.

01:06:43.403 --> 01:06:46.114
We really figured out how important what we do is.

01:06:46.554 --> 01:06:48.704
And we were in California at a mastermind event.

01:06:48.764 --> 01:06:50.083
Well that we're part of and.

01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:52.619
And he said, he said, step out.

01:06:52.619 --> 01:06:53.768
I need to talk to you about something.

01:06:53.768 --> 01:06:56.059
He said, do you remember so and so?

01:06:56.059 --> 01:07:07.748
And I, it was, I, I'm not gonna say the gentleman's name for, you know, respect for his family, but this, this guy had about roughly about 50 pounds lose and he wanted to, he wanted to kind of mull it over whether he was ready to drop the weight.

01:07:07.748 --> 01:07:13.128
And he was, he was in his sixties and Jason called and got it and got his widow on the line instead.

01:07:13.539 --> 01:07:15.559
He was following up with this individual.

01:07:15.568 --> 01:07:16.048
He died.

01:07:16.809 --> 01:07:16.909
It

01:07:16.918 --> 01:07:22.539
died into too much in that two month period of time, because you're not promised tomorrow.

01:07:22.869 --> 01:07:23.318
You're not.

01:07:23.369 --> 01:07:32.829
And people who struggle with obesity are a lot like the character of Wimpy that is on Popeye the Sailor Man, if you remember that cartoon.

01:07:32.829 --> 01:07:39.719
Wimpy had a, Wimpy struggled with weight, but he would always pay, gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

01:07:40.429 --> 01:07:40.648
That's true.

01:07:40.688 --> 01:07:44.889
And what I believe people, that was his line, I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

01:07:44.918 --> 01:07:45.378
That's right.

01:07:45.429 --> 01:07:45.949
That's true.

01:07:45.949 --> 01:07:46.393
That's true.

01:07:46.733 --> 01:07:48.143
That's the thought with weight loss.

01:07:48.143 --> 01:07:49.934
I'll gladly get the weight off Tuesday.

01:07:49.934 --> 01:07:54.474
I'm going to, I'm going to do what I want to do right now.

01:07:54.793 --> 01:07:56.184
And you might not have Tuesday.

01:07:56.353 --> 01:07:57.083
Take it seriously.

01:07:57.083 --> 01:07:59.204
Now, I don't know when your last day is.

01:07:59.204 --> 01:08:07.684
And, but I do think that many of us have played in the middle of traffic, hoping not to get ran over and then we blink and then we say, Oh, I guess it's just my time.

01:08:07.733 --> 01:08:09.003
No, you can speed that up too.

01:08:09.043 --> 01:08:09.983
There's a thing called free will.

01:08:10.643 --> 01:08:12.403
And so so definitely do that.

01:08:12.554 --> 01:08:14.704
Grab a spot on our calendar, transformyfuture.

01:08:14.744 --> 01:08:15.994
com forward slash apply.

01:08:15.994 --> 01:08:19.673
We're happy to help and and help people because here's the thing.

01:08:19.684 --> 01:08:21.894
One person can change a whole group of people.

01:08:21.923 --> 01:08:22.823
That's what we love to see.

01:08:22.944 --> 01:08:23.274
Yeah.

01:08:24.934 --> 01:08:26.694
Wow, guys, this, this has been.

01:08:26.918 --> 01:08:27.338
Awesome.

01:08:27.469 --> 01:08:28.668
I mean, absolutely amazing.

01:08:28.908 --> 01:08:29.819
A few thoughts.

01:08:29.929 --> 01:08:34.429
Alan I do want to commend you and thank you for being on class on time.

01:08:34.429 --> 01:08:44.309
Also back in 1980 for your English class, because I know without you being on time, then Angie here would not been, you know, not have gotten suckered into That's right.

01:08:44.309 --> 01:08:46.698
You know, persistence,

01:08:46.918 --> 01:08:49.828
you know, being on time and persistent for a whole school year.

01:08:49.828 --> 01:08:52.009
I guess she's she can't help it right now.

01:08:52.538 --> 01:08:55.578
So, and I'm glad that it worked out because we're here together today.

01:08:55.988 --> 01:08:56.929
I really enjoyed this.

01:08:57.269 --> 01:08:59.868
The other thing is, I want to say you talked about your friend.

01:08:59.868 --> 01:09:01.219
I think his name was Dan Miller.

01:09:01.219 --> 01:09:02.368
You said he was a mentor.

01:09:03.043 --> 01:09:05.543
That he was client 001.

01:09:05.884 --> 01:09:20.694
I think you need to add at least three zeros ahead of that based on your vivid vision there because you know, it's clear you're going to exceed, you know, just the hundreds of people you've probably already helped and go well into the hundred thousand.

01:09:20.724 --> 01:09:22.873
So add some more zeros at the beginning of that.

01:09:23.363 --> 01:09:23.623
All right.

01:09:23.634 --> 01:09:25.024
There's a new KPI for you.

01:09:26.743 --> 01:09:27.484
That's a great point.

01:09:27.604 --> 01:09:28.333
That's a great point.

01:09:28.533 --> 01:09:28.904
All right.

01:09:29.293 --> 01:09:32.654
Dan was, Dan was a great mentor and saw things I couldn't see.

01:09:32.944 --> 01:09:33.283
Yeah.

01:09:33.283 --> 01:09:33.854
So that's

01:09:33.854 --> 01:09:34.363
for sure.

01:09:34.573 --> 01:09:34.953
Yeah.

01:09:35.253 --> 01:09:36.064
So thank you guys.

01:09:36.064 --> 01:09:37.474
This has been a real joy.

01:09:37.484 --> 01:09:41.944
You've shared so much value with our listeners, not just for weight loss, but really for life.

01:09:41.953 --> 01:09:44.844
These are all really principles for success in life.

01:09:44.953 --> 01:09:51.684
And And weight loss is a great way to apply it, but then you learn it there and you can use it for everything else to really like kick ass in life.

01:09:51.684 --> 01:09:51.993
Right.

01:09:52.154 --> 01:09:55.293
So thank you for, thank you for everything you've shared with us.

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