Reclaiming Fitness After 40 with Allan Misner

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I'm training to have the exceptional life I deserve.

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It changes everything because now it's not boring.

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Now it's exciting.

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What am I going to be able to do when I'm a hundred years old?

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I see some of the things now.

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And I, I was never fast.

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That's why I played offensive line, but I, and that's why I ran the two miles.

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I was not fast, but I see people doing the a hundred yard dash at.

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80, 90, a hundred years old.

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And some of these guys are like fast and getting faster, but that's what's possible.

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That's a possibility.

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That's a reality.

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If you choose to do something about it now.

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Welcome back to the Wayfinder show.

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I'm your host, Louis Hernandez.

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And today I'm excited to introduce Alan Meisner.

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Alan, just before his 39th birthday, had a wake up call during a tropical vacation.

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He was once an athlete and now he found himself out of shape, weighing over 250 pounds and exhausted from the stresses of life.

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Determined to make a change, Alan embarked on a journey to reclaim his health.

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After years of ups and downs, he made a lasting commitment to his fitness, losing 66 pounds of fat and gaining muscle and even competing in a Tough Mudder with his daughter.

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Now as a coach and host of the 40 plus fitness podcast and an award winning author, Allen is on a mission to help people over 40 lose weight and get fit in a sustainable way.

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Allen, welcome to the Wayfinder show.

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Thank you.

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Happy to be here.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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We're happy to have you.

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So tell us about this.

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What was it that was happening at 39 that you were, you found yourself out of shape?

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Let's go back when you were an athlete.

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So what kind of athlete were you?

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And when was this?

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I was the every sport that we had kind of athlete.

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I didn't really fit a mold, it was one of those Hybrid athletes that you see today a lot more than you did back then.

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But I was an offensive lineman that ran the two mile and track did shot, put in discus and also was on the tennis team.

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Yeah.

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I had the strength, I had the stamina, I had the thing.

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I was just, I was in that middle weight.

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So when I was doing, offensive line shot, putting discus, I was the little guy standing with all the big guys.

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And when I was doing the the two miler and the tennis, I was the big guy around all the little guys.

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And so it just in the middle somewhere there.

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And, but I was good.

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I, I worked hard.

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I worked all day.

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Pretty much harder than anybody else I knew.

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And that was my hallmark was that I could do just about anything I set my mind to.

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And I took that forward with a career in the army.

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I was in an infantry it was infantry and they put me in a ranger unit.

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I wasn't a ranger, but I was.

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training with Rangers.

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And it was the same thing.

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I want to be the best out here and I trained.

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So at that point I consider myself a professional athlete because I was trained to basically be able to kill people as an athlete, and so I was training six to eight hours a day physically, like training for physical stuff, eight to six, six to eight hours a day.

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And basically it was, yeah, as fit as anyone I think could be.

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And then, you get out and go to college.

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I majored in accounting got the, went to a CPA firm, worked there.

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And then I went into corporate and I did what you're supposed to do, right?

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You're supposed to just work your way up.

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Then you make, make it into the C suite by the age of 39.

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And I did that.

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So I was the vice president of fortune 500 company at the age of 39 in the C suite, in all that stuff making money, doing great.

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Everything should have been wonderful.

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I forced myself to take a vacation.

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I had not taken a vacation in three years.

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So I said, okay, I'm going to take a week off and go to Mexico and sit on the beach.

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I literally walked in and I said, where's your sales office?

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Cause it was a timeshare.

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And I went in there and I bought a timeshare, cause I knew if I paid the money, I wouldn't want to waste the money.

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I would show up.

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So it was like at least one week a year.

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I would go down to this one place in Mexico and be on the beach.

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And and you get a free lunch with that too, don't you?

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I was on, yeah, I was on there all inclusive.

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So you know, that'll blend into the story a little bit, but so anyway, yeah, they, they had a breakfast.

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It was delicious.

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I was like, no, I'd rather just go to the restaurant anyway, I didn't eat breakfast there.

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And then it was funny cause the guy gave me the contract and I said, okay, I'm going to take the contract, go eat some lunch and read the contract.

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And no one does that, but I do.

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So I read the contract as well as eating lunch.

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So that did happen.

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But the next day I was really excited because on their like calendar of events, they had volleyball.

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And when I was younger, like in my late 20s, I was playing competitive volleyball, like semi pro.

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So going to money tournaments and playing usually twos and fours.

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And so I was playing pretty competitively just 10 years earlier.

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And so here I am on the volleyball court, really excited at six on six.

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And I hardly made it through the first game.

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And again, this is not running a lot of running.

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This is step, bump, step, bump kind of stuff.

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It wasn't really that strenuous, but I couldn't do it.

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And I was like how did I get to this place physically where I'm this overweight, I'm this incapable of being who I was.

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And I was just miserable about it.

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It really affected me.

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Not enough that I didn't finish off the week because it was all inclusive, the alcohol and everything.

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So I'll start on Monday.

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I'll start on Monday.

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And so that was the thing is I'd start on Monday and I start doing things.

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I'd either break myself or I do well for a little while and then I'd fall back.

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And that went on for eight years until my daughter said something to me.

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She she had recently gotten into CrossFit.

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She'd become a level one CrossFit coach.

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And she called me up.

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I was on the phone with her one time, one morning for me, it was evening for her.

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I was in Malaysia and she said, daddy, Would you come watch me do this CrossFit competition?

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And that was a kick in the gut because I I never anticipated being a spectator in my daughter's life.

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I had always envisioned being a participant, but there was no way I was going to go do a CrossFit competition at that point.

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And I was like, really?

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Okay, what is this?

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And the point came up as I sat down and thought about it, like, why is this so hard?

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Why is this the hardest thing?

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And I was comparing it against all the other hard things I did, college, the CPA exam, the ranger unit, working my way up the career, all the hard things that I did.

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And I was thinking, how is this harder?

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And I realized it wasn't harder.

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What was missing was those other things I had committed to.

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And when I committed to them, I was like fanatical, obsessed.

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This is the thing I'm doing.

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There's nothing between this thing and me, but I had never done that with my health and fitness.

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I'd never really committed.

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to make changes to myself that would allow me to do what I needed to do.

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And so it was that moment that I made that commitment.

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Yeah.

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I did go watch the CrossFit competition.

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I'm not a terrible dad.

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I didn't want to.

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I did do it.

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But that was the start.

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And so we did that.

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And then about two or three months later, I'd gone through some things and I realized, okay I just want to put Myself between the wall and the hard place.

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I just want to make this like scary.

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So I called my daughter up and I said, Hey, I've been doing a little bit of research about hard things.

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What do you think about doing a cross?

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What do you think about doing a tough matter together?

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And so if you're not familiar with a tough matter, it's a basically a 12 to 13 mile run.

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But it's over terrain.

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That's very difficult to traverse.

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So basically this is where they're doing the ATVs and they're getting their trucks stuck.

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You see someone get their truck stuck in the mud.

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This is where they're doing it.

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Okay.

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So it's not terrain that's easy to move through.

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And then, yeah, they throw in 25 obstacles just to make it fun.

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This was the first civilian obstacle course where someone died.

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Oh, so that was the other thing at that point in time.

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That was the big news is this guy died doing the Tough Mudder.

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And so I'm signing up for something that I can potentially die doing.

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Yeah.

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And I've got this kind of concept in my head that I want to do this, but I don't want to slow my daughter down and I don't want her to feel like she can, like you say, just go on without me and I'll catch up with you.

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This was a, I want to do it with her at her pace.

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I don't want to slow her down and I want to run a race with her.

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And then when I'm done, I don't want to feel like I'm dying.

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I want to enjoy this.

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And so that kind of set the stage for me to really bear down and when you do hard things, you learn a lot about yourself.

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And so that was me relearning lessons I probably knew when I was younger, but had let go and forgotten.

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And so I relearned those and basically stepped up and I was able to finish that Tough Mudder with her.

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Congratulations.

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That's excellent.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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Let me back it up.

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Cause you, you just said something that I think is interesting about.

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That you had to relearn things you knew when you were younger.

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But I want to challenge you and ask you if you really knew them when you were younger.

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And the reason why is because I, before we record, I mentioned to you I started a running journey, which is now a, an obsession, right?

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And I I am a very consistent runner now, long distance runner.

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And but over the years I've, as I got faster, I've been able to run with people who were, all Americans in their time.

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And and they'll come out and they'll run.

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And I, I'm.

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I, in my peak I'll run, when I'm peaking I'll run easy runs in seven minute pace, which is pretty fast.

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But to them, and so I'll usually be out in front of the pack and with a group and they'll come and they'll join me.

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And they haven't been out on a run for 10, 15, 20 years.

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There and they come and they realize, okay, they made it that one time and they want to come out and run, but then they can't do it again.

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And I question there's one guy, he's actually pretty famous, and I can't, won't say his name, but he, in the Boulder area, was a one, one time world champion and we went on a run, and he, just his natural talent.

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Took got him through a run with me at that point, but he couldn't really come out anymore and I asked him.

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Hey, what is it?

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Like why you know, what would it take to get back or what?

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He's like really I never knew I was never as consistent as you were Louie, you know I never did all the things you did now unless you know on the team They forced you to do it or whatever, but really I did what I had to do in the team But it was natural talent back then right when you're young You can recover.

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You can go get shit faced the night before and then get up and run 10 miles at, five minute miles and and be okay with that.

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I ask you that if you, what I mean by relearn is, okay, so what I teach now, one of the things I teach right now is about motivation.

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Okay.

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And what I believe is most of us don't understand motivation and we do it wrong.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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What we expect is that motivation is this force that just will show up.

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I talk about starting on Monday, this is probably going to go live sometime in November and people are like I'll wait till January to get started.

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January 1st.

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And I'm like, okay, that's six weeks or whatever from now.

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So that makes sense to wait six weeks.

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But that's what we do.

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We say that's when motivation is going to be at peak.

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This one's going to be there.

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And then we surprised when we get to January 21st and the alarm goes off and we don't want to get out of bed.

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It's cold.

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We don't want to go do the thing.

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That's right.

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So the motivation left.

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Where did it go?

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It didn't go anywhere because that's not how motivation works.

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Motivation is something you earn.

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You get motivation from doing things.

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Okay.

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There are two types of motivation.

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Okay.

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The extrinsic type is basically accountability.

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So you hire a coach or a mentor, or, and then you get in groups and the groups will help hold you accountable.

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So a lot of people think peer pressure is a bad thing, but peer pressure is only a bad thing if you have bad peers.

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That's right.

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If you surround yourself with good people, the good people keep you on track, they hold you accountable.

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So accountability is easy.

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You hire a coach, you join a group, but it's not as deep.

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It could go away pretty quick.

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Keep paying the coach, you lose the coach, or he moves on, you don't have a coach, that accountability can go away.

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Your workout partner decides he's not going to work out anymore, he hurts himself, you don't have a workout partner.

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That's fleeting.

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So what we want is we want the intrinsic kind, which is called self efficacy.

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So self efficacy is earned through Two different levels.

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There's also a leader level like a coach, but this is where your own you, your own CEO, your own manager, and the way managers manage is they find problems in process and they put something in place to keep that from happening, a control.

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So if you find you're not doing something, you want to make it harder to do the things that you don't want to do, but friction in there.

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Clean out your cupboard if you don't want to be snacking on crap at night.

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And then you want to put things that make it easier for you to do the things you want to do.

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So have your shoes, have your shorts, have your shirt ready.

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So when you get up and you want to go for a run, it's there.

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You don't have to think about it.

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It's already there.

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That's what you're putting on.

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That's what you're doing.

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So as a CEO, you're putting those things to make it easier to do what's necessary.

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And then after time, you build habits, you build values, And then you begin to identify as the person that does those things.

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So we take someone who starts walking, they're going to walk 30 minutes every day after work.

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Okay.

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So they're doing the walks and they build up some stamina.

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They decide I'm going to add a couple of jobs, jog to that fence post jog to the stop sign.

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They add some jogs in there and soon the stamina builds up to a point where they're jogging more than they're walking.

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And so they say, okay I think I'm going to sign up with my friend to do this 5k.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So they do a 5k.

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They love it.

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They get the shirt.

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Everybody's screaming.

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Energy's great.

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They really enjoy this.

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So now they're buying better shoes.

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Now they're buying other stuff.

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And when the alarm goes off in the morning, because they are a runner, they identify as a runner, they don't hit the snooze.

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They put on their clothes and are out for their run.

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And if they.

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Injure their selves or the weather is not allowing them to do it.

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They actually get antsy.

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Like I want to run because I'm a runner.

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Okay.

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So that identity is there now.

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So if you look at those things, all of that happened for many of us when we were young and we were athletes, it didn't happen in a way we remember it, but we had a mentor that could have been our coach or strength and conditioning coach, or it could have been someone in the gym.

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We went in there.

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There was the old guy in the gym that would teach us stuff.

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Keep us, we would show up.

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He would be there.

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That's your leader level.

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The friends that we went and worked out with are our teammates when we're in the gym and we're all pushing each other.

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That's accountability.

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So that accountability was there over time.

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We learned, okay, that the gym feels good to us and this is how we make it in there.

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This is how we get it done.

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School's over at two 30.

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I drive over, I'm in the gym working out and then I go do my part time job starting at five o'clock.

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Yeah.

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Every single day.

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And I make that pattern.

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Everybody knows Alan's gonna be in the gym from 3 o'clock to 4.

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30.

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Every single day.

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That's right.

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And then, it becomes my identity.

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I identify as the guy who's in 4th Street Gym every day, lifting weights and getting strong and people know that's who I am and that's who I am.

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We did that back then without even knowing we were doing it.

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Yeah.

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But because we got so out of it, now we're in this situation where we have to re engage and make that happen.

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So it's not that we're not motivated, it's just we're not doing the things that we're Yeah.

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Bring about motivation.

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And so people that have always been like that, the people who always, and they just kept working out and they're in great shape in their forties and fifties, they say, you just have to have discipline.

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You just have to have discipline.

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They did the accountability stuff.

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They did the self efficacy stuff way back then and never lost it.

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People who find themselves overweight and out of shape when they're older did.

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Yeah.

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So they got to go back to the basics.

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Get accountability.

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Absolutely.

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Get that going.

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So you have a reason to do this.

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You stick to it, then make it where you're doing it regular self management.

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So it's easier to do.

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And then over time you begin to identify.

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So the people who were elite runners back then, if they really sat down and started training, got a trainer, got a coach, started running, started working, it would come back and they would train and they would eventually then re acclimate to the fact that yes, I'm an athlete.

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I'm an elite athlete and I can be an elite athlete at this new level.

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I might not be able to hit my times I was doing when I was in my twenties, but at my new place, I can still do exceptional things and yes, there's the talent.

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The talent's probably still there.

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They just haven't trained.

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So they're untrained talent.

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And that's how he was able to keep up with you for the first run, but without training.

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That's unsustainable.

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Yeah.

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You can't just come out there every time and keep up with that level.

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He's got to train up to it and that's the missing piece.

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So the relearning was just relearning what it was in my head that made me successful before relearning that commitment was important.

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If I don't commit to something, I don't get it done because I'm not fanatical and crazy enough, getting strong enough to play offensive guard at the size I was, I had to be pretty fanatical.

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Yeah, about what I was doing when I was going to be on the football team, the tennis team and the track team all at the same time.

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That's a lot of volume.

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And to keep up with that volume, I had to be pretty fanatical.

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Cause it'd been easy to quit one or the other because it was interfering with my time or ability to do what I wanted to do in my life.

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But Like I said, I was committed.

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I was committed to be the best football, committed to be the best tennis players, committed to be the best at track I could be.

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And so those are the things I talk about is like, when we look at changing ourselves or going back and trying to be somewhat of who we were we've got to start where we are.

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We can't be looking back and saying that's possible again, it might be, I don't know.

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But in a general sense, if you don't start where you're sitting.

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You won't, you definitely won't get there.

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So do you have any good techniques to, cause I, I think that mental hurdle, you discussed it early on that it was just, you, it really upset you, right?

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You just all of a sudden not being able to do things you used to be able to do.

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How do you move past that?

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Easily because I know a lot of people in this situation in our age.

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No, it was hard and I did it over and over again.

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I ran into the same problem.

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Like it was like, okay insanity was, what is the definition of insanity?

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It's doing the same thing over and over.

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Okay.

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Here's another definition of insanity.

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I was wanting to get myself back in shape.

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This is during that eight year period of time.

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And so I was like, okay, I was traveling all the time.

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I'm like, okay, I can't hire a trainer.

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And I was sitting there one Sunday and I hit the TV.

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Football wasn't on yet.

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And there was this infomercial for the insanity workout with Sean T.

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And it looked fun.

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He's a dynamic, exciting individual.

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I was like, that looks cool.

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And they're all doing it.

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And some of them are saying, this is my second or third time through.

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I'm like, wow.

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And then I'm like, and no equipment, even better.

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Cause I travel, I could do this in a hotel room.

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I could do this out in the field somewhere.

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I bought the set when I was back home the next time I got the set of DVDs.

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Yeah.

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I'm that old.

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I go back to VHS and beta too, but I ripped them all off and put them all on my iPad.

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So I got them all on my iPad and I had them all on the iPad ready to go.

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I said, okay, I got to travel.

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I'm traveling on Tuesday night.

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So Sunday I said, I'm going to do this benchmark workout.

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Yeah.

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Now, this is just the benchmark.

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This is not I say workout.

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This is the benchmark.

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This is just a test to see where you are physically.

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So I do the test and he's saying, push yourself as hard as you can.

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And this is going to be your base.

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So I do that.

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And I was going through the things I'm doing the movements and everything and feel okay when I get done the next morning.

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When I woke up, I couldn't move.

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I felt like maybe about five or six guys must've sat there with baseball bats and just beat me all night.

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Sure.

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I was hurting so bad.

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Like reaching over to grab my phone just hurt.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so I'm calling off to work.

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I'm like, I can't come in.

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I can't even get out of bed.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And that's the ego over the self.

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I.

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I did not know my limits.

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I pushed past my limits.

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My ego pushed me.

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And that ego was that same ego that got me where I was when I was younger.

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But now it's dealing with an older body that's not capable of those things.

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And so I didn't have the tools to turn that ego off.

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And that hurt me.

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Now here's the downside of all that.

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I didn't do a single one of those workouts.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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None done.

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And So the point being is, yes, there's been several times through my life where I've let my ego get ahead of myself of where I was physically.

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And yes, if you were an athlete in the past, it's very easy to do that.

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It's very easy to know that I think that you're capable of doing more.

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And I would say that's particularly in endurance sports for sure, because endurance athletes.

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Feel pain while they're doing what they do, and it's their ability to run through that pain that allows them to be at an elite level, but you do that when you're in forties and fifties.

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And man, that's a bad place.

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You do recover better when you're younger.

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And we have to remember that when we're older, check that ego and do what do within ourselves and then push just outside that I call them gentle nudges, get outside of your comfort zone a little.

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And then you'll grow.

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When we were younger, yeah, we could overstress ourselves, our body would recover relatively quickly and we're right back at it.

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But being a little older, we just have to be a little bit more, a little bit more responsible to our body and realize it, we can do it, we will do it, if we tell ourselves we can, we're going to do it, the outcome is not what we want.

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So just gentle nudges will move us forward the way we need to.

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Yeah, that's good.

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Did you find yourself going and looking for new peers during this time to be around to help with that?

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Just like when you were younger, you had your classmates, your teammates, what have you.

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Or did you just do this on your own?

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Yeah I had to do a lot of it on my own from the perspective of, I really couldn't hire a coach.

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I'm home one weekend a month.

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I was traveling like 90 percent of the time.

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So I couldn't hire a trainer and I couldn't do that.

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I started looking for resources.

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I'm like, okay, what's out here.

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So I was thinking, okay I like podcasts.

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Are there any podcasts?

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No.

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No podcasts for over 40 there was CrossFit, there was bodybuilding, there was biohacking there was weight loss, but the weight loss was just the general, vegan thing or this thing or that thing.

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So there were, I was like, I'm not interested in any of that.

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I just want the basics for someone over 40 and there was nothing.

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I was looking for books, the books that were out there for people over 40 was chair yoga And stretching.

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Apparently that's what we were capable of doing.

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Once you're past 40 chair, yoga and stretching.

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I'm like, that's not going to change me the way I need to be changed.

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So there really wasn't anything.

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And I'm like, this is, it was bizarre because I'm like, how did all the baby boomers go through this age range?

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And no one realized that this was needed.

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Right now, I hear I was X Gen coming through it.

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And I'm like, okay, how is no one even paying any attention to this at all, because this is a big deal.

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Yeah.

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We are different when we're over 40, we have to train different.

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We have to think different and no one was teaching it.

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So I decided that, okay, I have my corporate career.

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I'm not going anywhere with that.

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I am, I'm doing fine, but I'm like, I can go ahead and just get certified as a personal trainer.

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So I went and got the NASM certified personal trainer.

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Yeah.

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So at that point I would say my, my, my accountability was that I was studying the things.

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And I wanted to implement them.

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I didn't want to just learn something for the sake of knowing it.

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So I was going through that.

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I went through and I realized, okay, my movement patterns are crap.

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So corrective exercise.

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And then I did functional aging and then I said, okay, I need some.

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Information on nutrition.

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So I can start losing this weight.

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So I took the functional, I took the sports nutrition.

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So I had those basics.

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And I said, what I learned in the nutrition class, isn't really going to get me where I want to go.

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It's, it was more of the government standard stuff.

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So I'm like, I'm going to find a nutritionist.

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And I just have one meeting with her, just sit down with her and talk to her about what I want and see what she comes up with.

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And she talked about paleo.

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And the thing about Paleo that kind of resonated with me was that it was, that they just talked about whole food.

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And they did limit food groups and things like that, but they just said whole food.

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That was their answer.

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I'm like, okay, I'll give this a shot.

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So I just started eating meat and vegetables.

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That's all I ate was meat and vegetables.

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Yeah.

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Some eggs, eggs and fish, but basically that, protein and vegetables.

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And I started losing the weight.

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And then because it was just meat and vegetables, my total carbohydrate.

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Amount was really low because I was eating leafy greens and cruciferous vegetables, and there's not a ton of carbs in those, so I ended up actually in ketosis for a period of time.

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I didn't even know what it was.

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I'd never even heard of it, but I ended up in ketosis.

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And what is it for our listeners who don't know?

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Okay, so ketosis is basically, if you eat a very low carb diet, and typically this is like below 25 net grams of carbs per day, which The average American eats about 250.

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So you're talking about eating about one 10th of the carbohydrates.

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So there's no bread, there's no rice, there's no potatoes, pretty much no carrots, often not much fruit.

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And so I just ended up with a very low carbohydrate deal.

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And what happens in the body is once your body starts burning fat and you're not eating sugar, it has to use the fat for energy.

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And it starts doing that initially and your body is freaking out because it's like, where's the carbs, dude?

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Where's my fuel?

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Where's my fuel?

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And so the for the first few days people feel like crap because your energy level is really low You know just nothing and then you start using that fat for energy and fat is very energy dense At 9 grams per carb, 9 carb, 9 calories per gram, it's twice, over twice of what a carbohydrate is.

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Carbohydrate is 4 calories per gram.

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So the the fat is really a lot of energy.

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And then there's a backup energy source that comes from it.

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You start creating this thing called a ketone and the ketones are flowing in your blood.

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But if you don't know how, if your body doesn't know how to use them, you just pee them out.

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Initially, so that people can measure them on a stick to know that they're producing ketones and then over time, your body actually learns to use the ketones for energy.

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And so now you're burning fat, some of the fat that you're eating and some of the fat that's on your body.

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So if you're fairly active and you end up eating fewer calories than you're burning, you're eating fewer than you're burning.

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Your body goes to body fat and uses that for energy.

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And so it becomes very easy because you're not hungry.

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You're not craving carbohydrates anymore.

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And.

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You, your body feels like it has energy whenever it wants it.

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If you're eating it, it's got it.

00:28:43.750 --> 00:28:46.609
If you're not, it's going to use body fat up to a point.

00:28:47.109 --> 00:28:54.664
But even some athletes that are doing like big, long endurance races are running those fully on ketones.

00:28:54.755 --> 00:29:09.015
They're not supplementing with any kind of sugar and they're able to do, long, long ultramarathons without eating anything just drinking water and maybe, maybe a little bit of electrolytes, but so I didn't know that's what it was.

00:29:09.015 --> 00:29:13.194
I just knew my breath smelled like crap and I was losing weight and I started doing some research.

00:29:13.194 --> 00:29:15.115
I'm like, Oh, I must be in ketosis.

00:29:15.174 --> 00:29:17.265
And so then I realized that's what I had done.

00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:36.480
all on accident, but it was a happy accident because that accelerated the weight loss, which again, because I'd signed up for a Tough Mudder was a big deal because there was no way with that extra 55 pounds and not having the muscle that I got that I ever would have been capable of doing that Tough Mudder the way I did.

00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.920
I needed to lose that weight to be successful the way I ran it.

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:46.470
So it turned out to be a very happy accident, but it really just came down to the fact that I was eating whole food.

00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.119
And in the end, that's it.

00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:59.329
I've interviewed hundreds of people up to this date, and whenever I ask them why their way of eating is the best way of eating, I get one commonality across all of them.

00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:01.910
This is the plant based diet, whole food diet.

00:30:02.289 --> 00:30:06.180
This is the meat, animal based diet, all, whole food diet.

00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:06.759
That's right.

00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:08.009
All the way across the board.

00:30:08.180 --> 00:30:11.609
The winning thing in US school, why is their diet they're eating crap.

00:30:12.029 --> 00:30:12.309
Yeah.

00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:13.849
Okay.

00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:14.470
Yeah.

00:30:14.549 --> 00:30:18.430
The fundamental difference is that they're not eating processed foods.

00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:18.970
That's right.

00:30:19.980 --> 00:30:20.289
Yeah.

00:30:20.289 --> 00:30:28.309
It every diet I see out there that the key I agree is basically eating anything on the outside of the, when you go in the grocery store, right?

00:30:28.309 --> 00:30:32.619
Skip everything in the aisles and And you're going to do all right, whatever, but do a lot better.

00:30:32.619 --> 00:30:32.960
Yes.

00:30:32.990 --> 00:30:46.000
And I would say if you can buy it locally from a local farmer, like farmer's markets and find a local farmer, you're going to be that much better off because that produce sat there and actually ripened.

00:30:46.500 --> 00:30:48.589
With the nutrition, coming from the ground.

00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:53.700
That's where we get our nutrition is from the ground, the minerals and the vitamins, that's all coming from the ground.

00:30:53.700 --> 00:31:08.069
And so the plant, if it's picked early, if the fruits or vegetables picked early, which they have to be for the grocery system, because they're picking them in Chile right now to truck them up, fly them up and they're not right, they can't send them up there.

00:31:08.069 --> 00:31:13.579
They'll get bruised up and messed up, but if they're in the ground growing until they ripen and they're picked.

00:31:13.670 --> 00:31:19.519
That morning or the day before at a farmer's market, you have the best nutrition that you could possibly have.

00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:26.829
If the animal is raised humanely and feels good and is healthy, you're eating the healthiest meat that you can possibly have.

00:31:27.380 --> 00:31:31.240
It's much more healthy than the factory grown meat.

00:31:31.309 --> 00:31:40.190
Not just being an artificial meat, but I just mean the animals that are brought up and used for our food stuff in our grocery store chain, our supply chain there, they're sick animals.

00:31:40.369 --> 00:31:40.700
Yeah.

00:31:41.085 --> 00:31:43.255
They are not they're not living their best life.

00:31:43.585 --> 00:31:49.805
And as a result, I don't think the products coming from them are nearly as healthy as we need them to be.

00:31:49.815 --> 00:31:52.075
So if you can source local.

00:31:52.515 --> 00:31:55.224
Or even grow it yourself, that's even better.

00:31:55.664 --> 00:31:59.595
Yeah, and you see a real difference just in the flavor, right?

00:31:59.795 --> 00:32:00.184
Oh yeah.

00:32:00.234 --> 00:32:00.954
Just anything.

00:32:00.994 --> 00:32:04.305
Everybody's had a homegrown tomato, right?

00:32:04.305 --> 00:32:06.125
Whether it's their own or neighbor's or something.

00:32:06.125 --> 00:32:09.285
That difference between that and what you get at the grocery store is night and day.

00:32:09.295 --> 00:32:11.414
And that goes for just about anything, right?

00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:28.089
Yeah, we were in we went to Japan earlier this year and we were just going to get local eggs there and just seeing, they, they encourage you to actually eat them raw there and looking at those eggs, how the difference when you crack one open, it's like a blood orange.

00:32:28.539 --> 00:32:38.380
The yolk, which is just so much different than anything you're going to get, even the local organic cage free eggs you get at the grocery store still don't look like that.

00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.160
Let me explain that.

00:32:40.170 --> 00:32:44.890
So those rules, when you see those rules, we think it means, so here's a free range chicken.

00:32:44.890 --> 00:32:45.210
Okay.

00:32:45.210 --> 00:32:53.619
So a free range chicken to them means that it has the ability to go outside, right?

00:32:54.390 --> 00:32:55.720
There's a door.

00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:01.714
Now there's, Thousands of chickens in there, and there's this little door.

00:33:02.095 --> 00:33:02.394
Yeah.

00:33:02.434 --> 00:33:06.894
Because the chicken has the capacity to go outside, it is a free range chicken.

00:33:06.944 --> 00:33:07.295
Yeah.

00:33:07.819 --> 00:33:08.230
Okay.

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:08.789
Yeah.

00:33:08.990 --> 00:33:15.710
Now, a real free range chicken walks around the yard, walks across the line of the chicken across the street because you're a free range chicken.

00:33:15.710 --> 00:33:16.259
That's why.

00:33:16.569 --> 00:33:16.950
Okay.

00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:27.049
He was able to go where he wanted to go and he's eating bugs and he's eating rats and he's eating all this other stuff and occasionally seeds and not a lot of grain.

00:33:27.109 --> 00:33:30.640
And so when they feed the chickens, they feed them to make them bigger.

00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:33.369
They feed, they, Give them what they need.

00:33:33.369 --> 00:33:36.259
They have certain breeds that are going to just lay more eggs.

00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.220
And or have bigger breasts.

00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:40.829
And so they've, Raised them that way.

00:33:40.859 --> 00:33:55.589
And then because the way they're raising them, so many of them together chickens are little Raptors, they're, if they were six foot tall, they'd be the most dangerous animal on this planet because they're fast and the beaks and they do is because these things will peck anything.

00:33:55.589 --> 00:33:56.309
They'll fight.

00:33:56.660 --> 00:34:00.549
Is they basically have to keep them from hurting the other chickens.

00:34:00.789 --> 00:34:02.190
So they cut their beaks.

00:34:02.380 --> 00:34:02.720
Yeah.

00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:07.160
And then because they're getting all these infections, they're giving them antibiotics.

00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.909
They almost just normal, like a normal course of antibiotics from the day they're born to the day they die.

00:34:12.219 --> 00:34:12.460
Yeah.

00:34:12.469 --> 00:34:15.969
Because they know if they don't do that, they're going to lose the chickens.

00:34:16.590 --> 00:34:17.750
And it's just a system.

00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:20.139
You give them this, you do that, and it's all tied out.

00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:28.309
I had a friend who was in that industry and he's And it was weird because it was almost like he owned a hotel for chickens and they told him exactly when to feed them.

00:34:28.460 --> 00:34:34.280
They just drop them all off, say, here's what you feed them every day and we'll come back in six weeks and pick them up.

00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:34.989
Yeah.

00:34:35.489 --> 00:34:49.329
And I would say he was raising chickens, but I would just say, no, he was just doing what he was told to do every day, like an automatron, feed them this much this day, feed them this much, feed them this much, do this, give them this injections, do this thing, feed them this antibiotic.

00:34:50.369 --> 00:34:51.179
all the way across.

00:34:51.179 --> 00:34:57.780
And so the food stuff we have now is not nearly as nutritious as it was a hundred years ago.

00:34:57.829 --> 00:34:58.309
That's right.

00:34:58.389 --> 00:35:08.699
And so again, the closer you are to home, growing your own, knowing the farm, this cool thing, would you go, if you go to a farmer's market and you just ask the farmer, it's tell me a little bit about how you raise your chickens.

00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:10.590
He will love you to the end of the earth.

00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:12.349
He will tell you everything you want to come on down.

00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:12.929
You can meet him.

00:35:12.940 --> 00:35:13.659
You can see him.

00:35:13.659 --> 00:35:16.099
These are the chickens that are laying your eggs.

00:35:16.710 --> 00:35:18.309
And you'll just see him walking around the yard.

00:35:18.329 --> 00:35:20.519
And he's not in this big, huge building.

00:35:20.860 --> 00:35:23.219
Where, yes, they do have laying nests.

00:35:23.219 --> 00:35:26.050
But in general, it's okay, they just laid one over there.

00:35:26.059 --> 00:35:26.760
Go pick it up.

00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:27.369
Yeah.

00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:28.340
Kind of thing.

00:35:28.340 --> 00:35:29.909
It was like, they are free range.

00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:31.119
They're living their best life.

00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:36.559
They're eating what they want to eat, how they would normally, there's no such thing as a vegetarian chicken.

00:35:36.699 --> 00:35:37.199
I'm sorry.

00:35:37.269 --> 00:35:38.260
Read that on the label.

00:35:38.260 --> 00:35:39.300
It sounds great.

00:35:39.389 --> 00:35:40.550
Oh, it must be a healthy chicken.

00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:43.280
No, chickens are not vegetarians.

00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:43.610
Okay.

00:35:43.610 --> 00:35:45.639
So they're not living the way they're supposed to.

00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:46.840
They're not healthy animals.

00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.800
And the food product from them is not the healthiest thing you could be eating.

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:56.260
It's expensive, but it's expensive to buy the higher quality stuff.

00:35:56.260 --> 00:35:57.920
So that's the trade off.

00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:59.630
It's also expensive to get sick.

00:36:00.070 --> 00:36:00.309
Yeah.

00:36:00.530 --> 00:36:03.360
From just eating the regular, you can eat a McDonald's in life, all the time.

00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.329
You're going to actually, it's going to be more expensive to take care of those ailments.

00:36:06.380 --> 00:36:06.639
Yeah.

00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:07.789
And you're not going to be as happy.

00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:14.010
So what about what about some of the other things that we need to be conscious of as we get into our forties?

00:36:14.010 --> 00:36:15.170
We hit our forties, okay.

00:36:15.905 --> 00:36:19.315
A thing happens and two things happen.

00:36:19.414 --> 00:36:22.074
It's called sarcopenia and osteopenia.

00:36:22.114 --> 00:36:28.594
So I'll start with osteopenia because this is something people are a little bit more familiar with because they know about osteoporosis, particularly in women.

00:36:28.994 --> 00:36:35.315
But osteopenia is basically where we're breaking down the density of our bones about 1 percent per year.

00:36:36.375 --> 00:36:39.224
Until we hit our mid sixties and then it accelerates.

00:36:40.175 --> 00:36:48.644
So when you see those frail old people that just look crumpled, they've lost that much bone density over the course of their lives.

00:36:48.974 --> 00:36:50.074
And that's what that is.

00:36:50.114 --> 00:36:52.235
And so if you're not doing anything to prevent it.

00:36:52.855 --> 00:36:55.554
You're going to lose bone density every single year.

00:36:56.224 --> 00:37:00.445
Now sarcopenia is muscle mass, and the same is true there.

00:37:00.454 --> 00:37:06.514
About 1 percent per year from the age of about 35 until mid 60s, and then it accelerates.

00:37:07.235 --> 00:37:20.590
So you can do the math and realize how muscular was I when I was 35, and if I'm going to basically lose 1 percent per year for the next 50 years, What am I going to look like?

00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:23.389
It's called frail.

00:37:24.469 --> 00:37:29.739
Okay, so we have to be doing resistance training if we want to keep that from happening.

00:37:30.019 --> 00:37:31.039
I'll tell you a story.

00:37:31.050 --> 00:37:33.170
My, my grandfather loved golf.

00:37:34.389 --> 00:37:37.469
He was just so passionate about golf.

00:37:38.070 --> 00:37:51.030
He was a salesman and back then that's where you did the deal, you went out play golf with them and then, after you play golf with them, you scratched out a contract or deal, shook hands and took it back to the office a good day at the office, right?

00:37:51.989 --> 00:37:52.679
That's what he did.

00:37:52.690 --> 00:37:54.679
So he played golf practically every day of his life.

00:37:55.885 --> 00:37:58.894
Until he was 80 at 80.

00:37:58.894 --> 00:38:01.985
He had to quit playing because he didn't have the balance.

00:38:01.985 --> 00:38:03.105
He didn't have the strength.

00:38:03.105 --> 00:38:05.114
He just couldn't swing a golf club anymore.

00:38:06.565 --> 00:38:12.695
Now, a lot of people say yes, there's a point where you have to give up sports and things like that, but he lived until he was 95.

00:38:14.054 --> 00:38:18.664
So last 15 years of his life, he didn't get to do the thing he loved the most.

00:38:19.554 --> 00:38:21.344
Like now you're telling me you love running.

00:38:21.344 --> 00:38:24.255
What if you got to a point where you just, you couldn't run?

00:38:25.534 --> 00:38:26.815
Yeah, it'd be a scary day.

00:38:27.105 --> 00:38:27.144
Yeah.

00:38:27.815 --> 00:38:32.364
And then live 15 years without being able to do the thing you love the most.

00:38:32.474 --> 00:38:32.775
Okay.

00:38:33.494 --> 00:38:40.945
Now, so you go forward at 90, he couldn't make it from his chair to the bathroom.

00:38:40.945 --> 00:38:42.344
So he realized he has to go.

00:38:42.715 --> 00:38:44.005
He's not going to make it.

00:38:44.295 --> 00:38:44.744
Wow.

00:38:45.744 --> 00:38:48.664
And so he lived in this apartment and they had a care center.

00:38:48.664 --> 00:38:52.605
So there was someone there, he called to come clean them up because he couldn't even clean himself up.

00:38:52.605 --> 00:38:52.974
Okay.

00:38:53.164 --> 00:38:58.074
His fitness was so far gone that he wasn't able to do the basics, think basic things necessary.

00:38:58.735 --> 00:39:08.355
So I want, I don't know about you, but I want to be able to wipe my own butt when I'm 105, if I decide I want to go back and start playing golf, I want to play golf until I decide I'm done playing golf.

00:39:08.650 --> 00:39:10.269
Not when my body says I'm done.

00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:10.980
Okay.

00:39:11.460 --> 00:39:13.880
So what I call that is fit for task.

00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.710
And so many people sit there and say I hate exercise.

00:39:16.710 --> 00:39:17.599
I hate workouts.

00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.409
They're just so boring and I don't want to do it.

00:39:19.409 --> 00:39:20.260
I don't want to go in the gym.

00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:21.320
I don't want to lift weights.

00:39:21.739 --> 00:39:23.530
That just, that doesn't appeal to me.

00:39:23.610 --> 00:39:24.019
Does.

00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:29.900
Having someone clean you up because you can't do it appeal to you and to me, no.

00:39:29.909 --> 00:39:39.280
So I look at fitness and I say to have the fitness I need to have to be independent for the rest of my life, to be able to do the things I want to do.

00:39:39.780 --> 00:39:40.989
I have to train for that.

00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:44.539
Just like we train for running, just like we train for other things.

00:39:44.820 --> 00:39:46.250
This is, we just train me.

00:39:46.579 --> 00:39:46.909
Yeah.

00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:56.550
So when I go in the gym and I'm lifting weights, I'm training for who I need to be now and who I need to be when I'm 80 and maybe who I need to be when I'm 105.

00:39:57.070 --> 00:39:57.409
Yeah.

00:39:57.940 --> 00:39:58.389
Okay.

00:39:58.619 --> 00:40:04.610
And I think about all the things that are going on and will go on in my life and those experiences I need to have.

00:40:04.619 --> 00:40:08.579
So I did the tough mudder with my daughter when I was her age.

00:40:08.579 --> 00:40:10.139
We didn't have tough mudders.

00:40:10.170 --> 00:40:11.130
We had other things.

00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:15.670
But I was also in a ranger unit, so there was that, but here we are, I'm doing tough mudders.

00:40:15.670 --> 00:40:15.677
Okay.

00:40:15.677 --> 00:40:15.684
Thanks.

00:40:16.804 --> 00:40:18.704
I don't know what my grandkids are going to be doing.

00:40:19.155 --> 00:40:21.804
My, both our daughters got married about two years ago.

00:40:22.335 --> 00:40:31.425
And I don't know 20 years from now what they're going to be doing, but I'm going to be the crazy 80 year old out there doing it with them.

00:40:31.695 --> 00:40:32.065
Yeah.

00:40:32.730 --> 00:40:33.239
Okay.

00:40:33.389 --> 00:40:40.550
When they're kids and they're sitting there like watching television or watching something or shows, I want to be on the floor with them.

00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:42.519
I want to be crawling around playing with them there.

00:40:42.940 --> 00:40:44.090
I take them to the zoo.

00:40:44.139 --> 00:40:48.559
I don't want to be the guy sitting on the bench asking them how it was when they come back.

00:40:49.389 --> 00:40:54.519
I want to be chasing them from the monkeys to the bears, to the lions, run around that zoo with them.

00:40:54.539 --> 00:40:56.150
Just like I was a little kid too.

00:40:56.539 --> 00:40:58.610
Yeah that's what I want.

00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.670
So when I go and I start doing something, it's training.

00:41:03.394 --> 00:41:05.074
It's training to be that guy.

00:41:06.505 --> 00:41:14.335
And when you start wrapping your mind around this is what I'm doing, I'm training to have the exceptional life I deserve, it changes everything.

00:41:15.724 --> 00:41:16.795
Now it's not boring.

00:41:17.965 --> 00:41:19.065
Now it's exciting.

00:41:19.085 --> 00:41:21.914
What am I gonna be able to do when I'm a hundred years old?

00:41:22.425 --> 00:41:25.344
I see some of the things now and I, I was never fast.

00:41:25.594 --> 00:41:26.885
That's why I played offensive line.

00:41:27.215 --> 00:41:28.954
But and that's why I ran the two miles.

00:41:28.954 --> 00:41:34.474
I was not fast, but I see people doing, the a hundred yard dash at, 80, 90, a hundred years old.

00:41:35.215 --> 00:41:36.994
And some of these guys are like fast.

00:41:37.094 --> 00:41:37.605
Oh yeah.

00:41:37.804 --> 00:41:38.195
Oh yeah.

00:41:38.304 --> 00:41:39.094
And getting faster.

00:41:39.094 --> 00:41:39.925
You're like, you're watching us.

00:41:39.925 --> 00:41:40.744
Like it's insane.

00:41:41.014 --> 00:41:41.494
Yeah.

00:41:41.764 --> 00:41:43.764
But that's what's possible.

00:41:45.764 --> 00:41:46.974
That's a possibility.

00:41:46.974 --> 00:41:48.074
That's a reality.

00:41:48.105 --> 00:41:52.335
If you choose to do something about it now.

00:41:52.864 --> 00:41:53.324
That's right.

00:41:53.824 --> 00:41:58.724
Those were the exceptional athletes and they're still exceptional athletes because they kept at it, they kept training.

00:41:59.655 --> 00:42:09.215
And no, I'm not going to be a world class sprinter at a hundred years old, but my great grandchildren, I want to be running around with them if I can.

00:42:09.324 --> 00:42:12.675
I'm not, I don't want to be sitting in a rocking chair being a spectator.

00:42:13.425 --> 00:42:15.375
I want to be a participant all the way through.

00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:16.619
All the way through.

00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:17.440
Yeah.

00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:18.880
I love that.

00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:20.050
That's a really big why.

00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:21.039
I really love that.

00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:22.500
Yeah.

00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:23.860
And we all have it in front of us.

00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:33.440
We don't know how many children, grandchildren, what we're going to have, but we expect some things to happen, but I also know, like I'm married, my wife worked, like I live on an island.

00:42:33.619 --> 00:42:40.039
And there, there is an ambulance but they might show up, they might not.

00:42:40.340 --> 00:42:40.570
Sure.

00:42:40.570 --> 00:42:51.670
What I know is if my wife had an event, something happened, she fell or hurt herself, something, and I need to be able to pick her up and get her into her car and drive her to the hospital.

00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:53.300
It's two, two miles from our house.

00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:53.889
Yeah.

00:42:54.309 --> 00:42:56.449
I need to be able to do that.

00:42:57.329 --> 00:42:57.860
Okay.

00:42:58.210 --> 00:43:00.260
And at this point, I'm 58 years old.

00:43:00.954 --> 00:43:12.175
And I know I can easily do that today, but if I'm still living here and I'm going to be able to do that at 68, I want to be able to do that at 78, I want to be able to do that at 88.

00:43:12.724 --> 00:43:15.394
Because I feel that responsibility to her.

00:43:16.605 --> 00:43:20.755
So I have a responsibility to myself to live the exceptional life I deserve.

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And I have that responsibility to people in my life to be there for them, the way I need to be there for them.

00:43:27.054 --> 00:43:28.195
And that never goes away.

00:43:28.204 --> 00:43:32.445
You never stop being that person unless you choose.

00:43:32.994 --> 00:43:34.594
That's a great way to put it, Alan.

00:43:35.764 --> 00:43:38.034
Alan, we're, I know you gotta get going soon.

00:43:38.175 --> 00:43:41.355
We're at that point where we'd like to ask our Wayfinder 4 questions.

00:43:41.355 --> 00:43:45.045
So we'll just zip through them so you can get, go on to your next commitment.

00:43:45.155 --> 00:43:47.635
Can you give us a hack that you use?

00:43:47.635 --> 00:43:50.625
This is just something you use to cheat light with every day.

00:43:51.934 --> 00:43:52.304
Okay.

00:43:52.525 --> 00:44:02.614
So the easiest hack I know is basically whenever you find yourself doing something that you don't want to be doing, you could say I slipped up.

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I use a process called slip to success.

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And the first piece of it is to forgive yourself.

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And so many people forget this.

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They think I've just got to fix it.

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If you don't forgive yourself, then it's really hard to fix it because you can't look at it objectively anymore.

00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:21.619
So forgive yourself.

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You're a human being.

00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.320
We make mistakes.

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We do that thing.

00:44:24.070 --> 00:44:25.059
I eat the donuts.

00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:25.420
Okay.

00:44:25.650 --> 00:44:26.630
I eat the donuts.

00:44:26.860 --> 00:44:27.099
Yeah.

00:44:27.110 --> 00:44:27.369
Okay.

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Forgive yourself.

00:44:28.369 --> 00:44:28.849
Okay.

00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.789
You sit there and keep beating yourself up about the donuts.

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You're never going to solve the problem.

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So forgive yourself, come up with a strategy of how you can prevent that from happening again.

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And then implement it.

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It won't be a perfect process every time, but that's that self management I was talking about.

00:44:47.010 --> 00:44:53.849
The CEO or manager of yourself, where you start making those objective decisions of how I can keep this from happening.

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And so instead of when the donuts are in that break room, instead of going into the break room to get your coffee, go to your office, grab a bag of nuts, go into the break room, pour your coffee, sit there and chow on the nuts, and then just set a rule.

00:45:07.610 --> 00:45:09.340
I don't go back in that break room today.

00:45:09.715 --> 00:45:10.074
Yeah.

00:45:10.284 --> 00:45:15.755
Instead of, if I need to go and get more coffee, I go downstairs to the next level and I get the coffee there.

00:45:16.215 --> 00:45:18.965
Upside, I did more steps today, including stairs.

00:45:19.295 --> 00:45:19.724
That's right.

00:45:19.855 --> 00:45:21.394
Because I didn't go to that break room.

00:45:22.385 --> 00:45:29.684
And so that's the basic hack is slip to success, but you have to, it has to start with forgiveness or you can't be objective in solving the problem.

00:45:30.184 --> 00:45:30.875
That's a great.

00:45:31.315 --> 00:45:32.005
That's a great one.

00:45:32.505 --> 00:45:33.445
What about a favorite?

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Show, book, hobby, whatever.

00:45:39.815 --> 00:45:49.590
A lot of it's going to depend on where you are, but from a book perspective, if you're getting a little older, I would recommend Kelly Starrett's the supple leopard.

00:45:50.539 --> 00:45:51.860
It's a mobility book.

00:45:51.900 --> 00:45:55.099
And many of us, as we get older, that's one of the key things.

00:45:55.150 --> 00:45:56.369
We may keep our strength.

00:45:56.369 --> 00:46:06.684
We may keep our stamina, particularly if we have a sport you're running but if you want to make sure that you stay mobile, like I want to be able to tie my own shoes reaching out and touching your feet, doing those things.

00:46:06.965 --> 00:46:11.324
That's mobility, the ability to move through full ranges of motion with control.

00:46:11.534 --> 00:46:15.894
And so Kelly Starrett's book is probably the best book I've ever read on that topic.

00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:17.719
Okay.

00:46:18.219 --> 00:46:21.980
How about a piece of advice for your younger self?

00:46:24.090 --> 00:46:26.239
Don't make decisions out of fear.

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As I look back at my life, every poor decision I ever made, I realized I made it when I was afraid, and I made it because I was afraid.

00:46:37.250 --> 00:46:42.344
And so if something scares you, It might just be the right thing to do.

00:46:42.875 --> 00:46:51.144
We need to be outside our comfort zone because nothing beautiful, nothing wonderful in your life has ever happened inside your comfort zone.

00:46:51.715 --> 00:46:52.094
Yeah.

00:46:52.235 --> 00:46:55.735
You've always had to go outside your comfort zone to make it happen.

00:46:55.735 --> 00:46:57.715
So if you're feeling a little uncomfortable.

00:46:58.260 --> 00:46:58.710
Good.

00:46:59.250 --> 00:47:00.559
You're in the right place.

00:47:01.090 --> 00:47:02.090
You're in the right place.

00:47:02.090 --> 00:47:02.869
Keep doing that.

00:47:03.989 --> 00:47:04.449
Excellent.

00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:09.860
What about a last one you can choose between a big opportunity or a limiting belief?

00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.110
I think a lot of us think age is like meant to decline, and so we age faster.

00:47:15.110 --> 00:47:21.489
You see a lot of people that like, I know a lot of people I went to high school with that I look at and think that they're acting like they're 80.

00:47:23.110 --> 00:47:24.510
And I don't understand it.

00:47:24.530 --> 00:47:28.550
I'm like, how did you get so old only being in your fifties?

00:47:28.550 --> 00:47:30.210
I remember we were young, went up fifties.

00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:31.329
Oh my God, that's an old guy.

00:47:31.769 --> 00:47:34.119
But now I look at it and say, okay, I'm in my fifties.

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:34.699
Yeah.

00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:57.110
I still think and feel like I'm in my twenties and thirties and I can do a lot of things that I could do back in my twenties and thirties, not all of them, but some of them, I don't feel old and I don't hurt and I hear all this, I hurt all the time and I'm like aches and I get up in the morning and I'm like, Yeah, every once in a while I might sleep wrong, but I don't wake up aching because I'm moving.

00:47:57.539 --> 00:47:58.489
I'm moving my body.

00:47:58.489 --> 00:47:59.309
I'm eating well.

00:47:59.309 --> 00:48:00.059
I'm doing the things.

00:48:00.059 --> 00:48:06.000
I'm treating my body but I just see my friends, a lot of people I went to high school with and whatnot they look like they're 80 years old.

00:48:06.170 --> 00:48:06.500
Yeah.

00:48:06.570 --> 00:48:08.269
They act like they're 80 years old.

00:48:08.619 --> 00:48:11.860
And so in essence, 80 years old.

00:48:11.969 --> 00:48:12.329
Yeah.

00:48:12.500 --> 00:48:12.820
Yeah.

00:48:13.059 --> 00:48:14.929
So you get to choose your age.

00:48:15.764 --> 00:48:16.235
It's funny.

00:48:16.235 --> 00:48:17.775
I feel younger, the older I get.

00:48:18.565 --> 00:48:18.795
Yeah.

00:48:18.844 --> 00:48:20.215
I look forward to my 50s.

00:48:20.215 --> 00:48:20.625
Yeah.

00:48:20.625 --> 00:48:22.554
I'm a year and a half away now.

00:48:23.045 --> 00:48:23.394
Okay.

00:48:23.425 --> 00:48:23.605
Good.

00:48:23.804 --> 00:48:23.925
Yeah.

00:48:23.965 --> 00:48:24.715
Congratulations.

00:48:24.715 --> 00:48:25.545
You're almost in the club.

00:48:25.554 --> 00:48:25.614
Thank you.

00:48:25.885 --> 00:48:26.125
Yeah.

00:48:27.485 --> 00:48:28.954
That's when life really gets fun, right?

00:48:29.204 --> 00:48:29.284
It can.

00:48:29.284 --> 00:48:31.105
Every decade's been better, I feel, for me.

00:48:31.105 --> 00:48:31.494
Yeah.

00:48:31.574 --> 00:48:35.574
I basically I started training people when I was 49 online.

00:48:35.635 --> 00:48:39.554
And then I was like, okay, I have a five year plan, retire at 55.

00:48:39.914 --> 00:48:42.385
The company I was working for laid me off when I was 51.

00:48:43.804 --> 00:48:46.255
And I told my wife, I'm like, there's a lot of stress in that job.

00:48:46.255 --> 00:48:48.474
I'm not really, I'm not really digging it anymore.

00:48:48.485 --> 00:48:50.284
I think I just want to do this coaching thing.

00:48:50.764 --> 00:48:54.034
I won't make the money I would have made, but at this point I don't care.

00:48:54.675 --> 00:48:58.994
And so now, I get to help people get healthy and fit and I love it.

00:48:59.494 --> 00:49:00.385
I love every day.

00:49:00.795 --> 00:49:01.824
I love every day of my life.

00:49:02.545 --> 00:49:06.014
And I live in a beautiful place in the Caribbean that doesn't get hurricanes.

00:49:07.715 --> 00:49:11.255
Alan people want to know a little bit more about you, maybe get your book.

00:49:11.375 --> 00:49:13.175
Can you let us know a little bit more about that?

00:49:13.445 --> 00:49:13.815
Sure.

00:49:14.114 --> 00:49:18.485
The 40 plus fitness podcast is everywhere you listen to podcasts, including this one.

00:49:19.085 --> 00:49:24.434
I, the book is called the wellness roadmap and it's available on Amazon or wherever you buy books.

00:49:24.795 --> 00:49:27.534
And then 40 plus fitness is my website.

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00:49:58.945 --> 00:50:01.994
And from there you can find out just about everything you want to know about me.

00:50:02.655 --> 00:50:03.034
Excellent.

00:50:03.594 --> 00:50:04.844
Alan, this has been a real treat.

00:50:04.855 --> 00:50:05.905
Thanks for being here.

00:50:06.094 --> 00:50:08.074
Thank you for your service to our country, too.

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And we'll see you on the trail.

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All right.

00:50:11.175 --> 00:50:11.704
Thanks.

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All right.